Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:09 am

shalafi wrote:ked uz sme pri tom pristavnom moste - zatial ma waze len jeden jediny raz routoval po apolle :evil: chodim tade kazdy den z prace...

A potom ze "waze sa rychlo uci" ;)

Nic si z toho nerob. Ja mam momentalne do prace (podla waze mapy a mojej jazdenej trasy bez akejkolvek premavky) 1047 + 667 = 1,714 km za 3-4 minuty, ale Waze mi ju este nikdy neponuklo, hoci som mu ju ukazal minimalne 100 krat (takze na nedostatok dat sa stazovat nemoze). Vzdy ma posiela po (1047 + 770 = 1817 m) o 103 metrov dlhsej trase s obcas hustou premavkou, ktora obsahuje aj dva semafory a je asi o 1-3 min. pomalsia. ALE 380 metrov ide aj po Minor Highway a nie len po Streets pomedzi domceky, co je mozno pre Waze dostatocny argument?

Cestou naspat je to analogicke...
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:17 am

Tak toho by si urcite zsasluzil! :)
(Mozno by som mal striast ostych a ponuknut mu prvu "necukrikovu" waze odmenu :D ved ho tu mam "co by kamenom dohodil".)
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:41 am

:)
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:43 am

Vedel, ale myslis, ze sa mi.... :roll: Spravim a poslem. :) Len budem musiet nahradit mnozstvo slangovych popisov miest na trase nejakymi permalinkami do mapy. A mam smolu, ze moj stary klient nevie zobrazit alternativne trasy z A do B, vratane zapch a hlasenych udalosti. Tym by sa ta sprava zjednodusila.

Nepaci sa ti Fantomas? :P
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:02 am

Dnes sa kuryrujem... :cry: tak debugujem routing.

Zvolil som si trasu D1 (krizovanie s Triblavinskou cestou) - BA Botanicka zahrada (http://world.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=6&l ... =144749968), nech zachytim vseliake pripadne zapchy v priebehu rannej spicky.

  • Rano okolo siedmej to v klientovi vychadzalo na 20 km / 18 min. Bezna priem. tychlost na trase buducej zapchy je asi 65 km/h.
  • V priebehu hodiny pribudla upchata D1 na obchvate - od Seneckej az po Prist. most (9.5 km) s cervenou priem. rychlostou 23 km/h (+16 min?). Odhady klienta aj LiveMap vzrastli na 21 min.
  • Po osmej sa zaciatok zapchy posunul k Zlatym Pieskom (pripojka od NAY), priem. rychlost vzrastla na oranzovu 35 km/h (+6 min?), cas na 20 min.
  • Neskor pribudla kratka cervena zapcha popri Vajnorskom jazere, +1min, potom sa natiahla a scernala (14 km/h), este +1 min. (na 22).
  • Cierna zapcha (5 km/h) sa o 8:30 natiahla od spominaneho mosta az po zaciatok Vajnorskeho jazera (2.5 km, normal. priemer 100 km/h -> +28.5 min), zvysok trasy od Vajn. jazera po Prist. most (9 km) bol cerveny (18 km/h -> +22 min.), odhad casu trasy siel hore len na 36 min.

  • Nasledne som trasu skratil po zaciatok Prist. mosta (12 km), komplet upchate. Pri dlzkach zapch priemernych rychlostiach 3km oranzova 38 km/h + 9 km cervena 28 km/h bol odhad 17 min, mne ale vychadza aspon 4.7+19.3=24 min.
  • Zaverecny stav o 9:00 - prve 3 km rychlo (100 km/h), zvysnych 9 km cervena zapcha (29 km/h), odhad 14 minut. Aj ked roztrham motor, ak auto nevysunie kridla (ako mal Fantomas), nemoze to spravit pod 1.8+18.6=20.4 minuty.

Nech pocita Waze ako chce, ale odhady trvania trasy sa niekedy diametralne odlisuju od zobrazenych udajov o priemernych rychlostiach. A teraz co z nich je spravne a co nespravne? Zobrazene zapchy su prilis nahrubo, alebo to nevedia vynasobit?
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:28 pm

guri211 wrote:Tak som zatial urobil stvrtok 15:00 - piatok 23:50:

No SPICA!! To je dokaz ako visity.

Smer VON Z MESTA
...v najvacsej spicke poobede (piatkove stahovanie naroda mimo BA) absolutne nic.

Nemal som ani sajnu, ze u nas je v sobotu 02:30-06:00 tolko naroda na ceste von z BA tak husto :o
Koncia diskoteky a ine spolocenske zalezitosti? Alebo oneskorenci, ktori sa chceli vyhnut hlavnemu peaku?
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:53 pm

duky5 wrote:waze s kľudom angličana oznámilo, že predo mnou je zápcha :)

No super, aspon mame konecne dokaz, ze funguje :mrgreen:

Guri, drzim palce. Aj aby sa ta tebou predostreta "fikcia z inej krajiny" raz stala realitou aj u nas.

guri211 wrote:BTW dnes vo vecernej spicke (17:30) sme mali v BA uz 40 sucasne jazdiacich Wazerov :twisted:

To je dobre. Ale ked sa pozeram na mapu trochu sirsieho okolia, zial ich vidim len v Blave, Pesti a trochu v Brne. Okolo je pustatina :cry: Asi pretoze tam nie su zapchy a keby aj, nie je ich kade obist.
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:47 pm

Guri, neviem ako najviac sa da roztiahnut casova os na tom grafe (na vsetkych snimkach som zatial videl len asi 2.5 hodiny, mozno je to fixne), ale mozno by zavazilo, keby si niektory den spravil seriu screenshotov, pokryvajucich 24 hodin pre oba spominane smery jazdy (do mesta a von z mesta).

Mozno by take mnozstvo snimok malo byt s trochu zmensenym rozlisenim.

Asi by bol kamenak zobrazit 2 x 48 hodin:
  • nedela 01:00 - utorok 01:00 (co by pokrylo realny traffic nedela 09:00 - utorok 09:00) v smere do mesta a dali by sa tam identifikovat 3 spicky a 1 flat v nedelu rano,
  • stvrtok 08:00 - sobota 08:00 (co by pokrylo realny traffic stvrtok 16:00 - sobota 16:00) v smere von z mesta a tiez by tam bolo jasne vidiet, kedy je ktory den.

Ale asi by si sa 4 noci nevyspal :lol:
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:54 pm

Velmi pravdepodobne.

Chcelo by to nejakeho znameho, ktory pouziva ten Waze widget (opravujem sa: "Android Commute-o-meter widget") v uplne inej casovej zone World servera (napr. Japonsko) a pozriet si tu krivku pre pracovny den. (Alebo sa to da aj od nas pre hociake mesto?)
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Re: Velmi hlupe navigovanie v BA v spicke :(

Postby foxitrot » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:05 pm

guri211 wrote:Otazka znie: Suvisi to s problemom ignoracie zapch, ktory uz nasli a pracuju na jeho odstraneni, alebo to je zase uplne novy problem? :evil:

Mozna odpoved: uz davnejsie si zistil, ze ak sa zobrazia alternativne trasy viackrat po sebe, niekedy obsahuju heavy traffic a niekedy nie. Tipoval by som, ze rozne vysledky mozu prichadzat z roznych routing serverov (dam krk na to, ze ich je viac). Moze sa stat, ze len niektore servery maju tento posun o 8 hodin a ine nie? (Viem, nepravdepodobne, ale rovnako nepravdepodobne je aj to, ze len niektore servery beru do uvahy zapchy, vsak?)
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