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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:47 pm

@zinok2, @paaaja13 - uzávierky z klienta sú žiaľ nedotiahnutý nepodarok a vyžaduje to koordinované úsilie viacerých wazerov, aby nejaká odbočka skutočne zamkla aj pre ostatných. Cesta, na ktorej už si, sa zamknúť nedá.

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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:05 am

grepa wrote:Při situaci, kdy na dvou cestách se společnými body (junctiony) je routing přes nevhodnou cestu...
[...]
Vyznačená východní trasa je úzká (nevhodná), ale preferovaná routingem.

Myslel si tu vyznacenu zapadnu? ;)
Ten Private segment na zapadnej si asi vytvoril ty teraz kvoli tomu, vsak?
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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:58 pm

Drobná úprava. Pár metrov severne od toho Private segmentu je slepá odbočka doľava. Teraz je penalizovaná od juhu, všetkých to tam bude navigovať (obchádzkou) len od severu. Taký krátky Private segment by som dal symetrický aj od severu.

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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:30 pm

Keďže tam nevedie tretia prístupová cesta, myslím že áno.

Pod tie segmenty by to ešte chcelo malý landmark s komentárom. Predsa len je to workaround v rozpore s dohodnutým spôsobom kreslenía ciest - nie je tam "Prejazd zakázaný".

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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:45 am

Ja si tam ani neškrtnem :)
Môže byť aj parkovisko, má menšiu penaltu, ale tiež tam nepatrí...
Malý landmark napr. 5x15 metrov pozdĺž takého segmentu.

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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:30 am

grepa wrote:Aplikovaná editace IV.lekce
RETARDÉR = ZPOMALOVACÍ PRÁH:
[...]
podobné problém jsem odlaďoval ve ValMezu přidáním reálných křižovatek => zvýšení penalizace méně vhodné trasy.
[...]
Zkusím předložit návrch aplikace retardéru :-).
edit: jo zkušebně jsem instaloval dva :-)

Podla skusenosti a po potvrdeni Supportom - na rovnom useku ------o--o--o--o--o------ umelo pridane junction uzly spociatku sice budu pridavat malu penaltu pre krizovatku, ale po niekolkych prejazdoch, ked uz servery budu mat data, tie penalty vynuluju.

Aby tie penalty vydrzali, musis k tym uzlom pridat aj realne odbocky.
porubcan wrote:myslim, ze tymi par junctions to aj tak nebude fungovat podla tvojich predstav

rst193 wrote:skor by som spekuloval s mikrosegmantami...

grepa wrote:mikrosegment to už jsem slyšel, ale přesně nevím jak to vypadá.

GinBook wrote:Otazka je, kolik musi byt tech junctions aby to pomohlo? A pomuze to?

Aby to nestrasilo na mape, tak male mikroodbocky = mikrosegmenty. Mozno ta cesta pri silnom priblizeni bude "chlpata"? :)
Vraj krizovatka vnasa penaltu asi 5 sekund. Podla mojich davnych testov sa ale uplatni len pri hladani trasy, pri vypocte ETA cez taky usek uz nie. Ale to sa odvtedy mohlo zmenit...

Asi by som momentalne taky "retardovany" usek neriesil. Chcelo by to mat nejaky segment typu Private, ale s ovela-ovela mensou penaltou. Skus Parkovisko.
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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Wed May 14, 2014 2:06 pm

Asi ťa oba budú navigovať a náhodne sa na striedačku budú pripájať a strácať spojenie na servery? Už sme to nejaké roky neriešili, skús a daj vedieť.

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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Wed May 14, 2014 11:26 pm

Omyl, bude fungovat na oboch. Ale blbnut. A mozno ho druhi uvidia na dvoch miestach sucasne.
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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Fri May 23, 2014 1:16 pm

petk0 wrote:Mam tu otazku od novacika, ktory si ulice vo svojej obci pomenoval tak ako sa mu to hodi. Kedze obec nema ziadne ulice, tak pouzil nieco v style "cesta ku krcme", "k panelakom", "k palenici" a podobne... Na jednej strane chapem ze sa v takej obci lahsie naviguje, napriklad aj koli historii zadanych cielov. Ale ako to riesit, aby to nebolo proti pravidlam? Nieco malo riesia landmarky, ale aj tak ostane vacsina segmentov bez mena.

A keby pred kazdym objektom pridal landmark a PLR segment typu "[P] karcma", bolo by to aj koser, nie? 8-)
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Re: Waze nováčik - otázky

Postby foxitrot » Fri May 30, 2014 7:49 pm

Jasné. Ale Waze zatiaľ nemá predstavu o tom, kde je povolená aká max. rýchlosť. Vie si len spočívať nejakú priemernú a maximálnu jazdenú.

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