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Barnes and Leigus Rds in Wallingford

Post by voludu2
While fixing a misplaced place near a recent drive in Wallingford, I notice something strange about the nearby road names.

I think these two segments, currently named Leigus Rd, Should be renamed to Barnes Rd, possibly with an alt of Barnes Rd #4
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And that they should have a speed limit of 25 mph.
Leigus rd itself, which is perpendicular to Barnes Rd, should have a speed limit of 35 mph as far south as Greib Rd.

Any objections?
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The thing that tipped me off was the SV here:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... s=53349751
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.482956, ... 312!8i6656


So I found a map.
According to Wallingford's official street map:
http://town.wallingford.ct.us/images/cu ... lfdmap.pdf
These segments should actually be Barnes Rd (perhaps even Barnes Rd #4, though I doubt even local drivers would routinely use all the numbers for the now-disconnected brances of Barnes Rd)
This seems to be supported by the addresses of the businesses located on the eastern end of this stretch.

These two segments of Barnes Rd #4 run parellel to Barnes Rd.

Speed limits for Barnes Rd, Barnes Rd #4, and Leigus Rd are listed where you'd expect them to be listed:
http://www.ct.gov/dot/lib/dot/documents ... ngford.pdf

I was wondering how Barnes rd came to be this way, so I looked up an old topographical map from the 50s.
It seems that Barnes Rd used to sort of follow the route now followed by its disconnected pieces until Church Rd was built sort of through it:
http://docs.unh.edu/CT/walf54ne.jpg

You can see, in the topo, that Barnes Rd runs right along the Southern edge of the North Farms Reservoir, just as the segments in question do today, and that Leigus Rd extends all the way to it, just as it does today. Though the Wallingford town map pdf (dated 1999) seems to be missing the northernmost segment of Leigus Rd, now labeled as the Leigus Rd extension, which seems more-or-less logical, though I can't find the extension listed as such on the town map, the posted speed limit sheet, or the LGS (which seems to just say Leigus Rd).
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Post by AndyPoms
No issues with the name change - as both CT DOT Maps & Wallingford Maps agree - your call on the #4 Alt-name, it's very rare to see the numeric designation on anything but the maps. And you probably should add Barnes Rd #3 to the map while you are at it.

The CT DOT map shows the section of "Leigus Rd Ext" - http://www.ct.gov/dot/lib/dot/documents ... 148fcl.pdf

However, the SL on Barnes Rd #4 is 30mph per CT DOT OSTA.

P.S. No work has been logged for Wallingford on the SL front - it is slow going & I'm trying to work on the bigger (more populous towns first (after trying to start alphabetically, but that was a bad idea).
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Post by AndyPoms
voludu2 wrote:In CT, for primary street name, do you generally use the street name found on the official map, or the street name the drivers will see as they drive (LGS, MGS and BGS)?
In the past I've gone with the most local source - City/Town GIS/Map beats Regional GIS beats CT DOT. When it comes to GIS, Parcel Data vs what's shown on the GIS map comes into play as well.

Be sure to include Alt-Names for the other possibilities.

In this case, I would use the clean version and put the Ext as an alt.
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Post by voludu2
30 mph - true. Eyes must have slipped to another line.
I mistook Barnes rd #3 for a driveway for the Barnes Place apartments, and was not convinced by the 1999 town map. Thanks for the link to the updated map.

No matter how you sort, Wallingford is not the top of the list :D
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In CT, for primary street name, do you generally use the street name found on the official map, or the street name the drivers will see as they drive (LGS, MGS and BGS)?
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