Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:25 pm

I should also add that, like Nassau County, Rockland County is also divided up into only 3 towns with several villages/cities, with the towns likely more-localized with hamlet names.
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby johnsninja58 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:45 pm

So where does that leave us? How do we move forward? I think we’ve identified enough locations with this challenge.
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby jdelosa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:45 pm

This might only be handled by different guidelines for different areas...


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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby johnsninja58 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:56 pm

jdelosa wrote:One size will not fit all in NY and that is the only thing I am sure of...


100% agree
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby SpencerFG » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:54 pm

At the possible risk of being off topic, as children, my cousin and I occasionally traveled by bus between Swan Lake and Liberty (where shopping and movie theaters could be found). The bus had painted information near the door: "seats 45, stands 15.". We stood the whole way since the fare was 15 cents.
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby whoaitspete » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:45 pm

After a bit of research, it seems Rockland is the only other county south of I-84 that has the same official use of CDPs and hamlets as the Long Island counties. Orange, Westchester and Putnam do not have any official hamlet boundaries. This trend continues northward.

One more wrench into using CDPs elsewhere: their evolution over time. I haven't been able to find a list, but there were 24 new CDPs added between 2010 and 2018 in the state. In areas like Long Island and Rockland, the general density of housing is fairly stable and I expect that list hasn't changed. I am currently gathering the old lists and new lists to see what changed and will report back when I get a chance to thoroughly compare.

I also know of at least 2 villages that have also dissolved in that timeframe, making them hamlets that have quasi boundaries.
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby johnsninja58 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:48 am

The risk of further villages dissolving will continue, hopefully an adequate plan can help ensure effective management of changes in political/municipal boundaries.
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby voludu2 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:54 pm

So. First step - Sussex county? It should be possible to look at the Cities Overlay KML file in WME and/or in GoogleMyMaps and make some decisions.

The issue of whether to use the "expected city name" (usually identical to the mailing address city) or the "official" name as primary needs to be laid to rest before beginning.

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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby sikemever » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:08 am

For the sake of the city layer in app how about the town, county as primary and any alts we need for navigation?
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Re: Hamlets, CDP, Zip Codes

Postby whoaitspete » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:34 am

At the moment, the county is already named after most of the hamlets. You might switch it to just those few town and villages, but the locked polygon layer will still show those dozens of other shapes and names.

Edit: Just realized you said app. So it would be a good time to check that out now and see if it's too crowded.
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