Mike-1323 wrote:Maybe only the entrance ramps (or the beginning sections of the ramp) should be marked toll. Then the avoid toll option will prevent toll road routing but HOV'ers will get recalculated routes that are accurate.
CBenson wrote:There was a bunch of generic discussion on the topic here: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... s&start=40
I agree that marking them toll makes sense. If user's are complaining that they are being routed over the toll lanes, I don't see the problem with having them learn to check the avoid toll option.
wpegues wrote:I am coming from Reston down 267, the routing told me to take the exit ramp to the regular south bond I495 lanes, travel south to route 7. Exit at route 7 and then with a couple stay rights and lefts it was onto the ramp for the South bound HOT lanes.
Now, if that is actually possible, its not a bad idea, if there was truly a backup where the red was indicated. However, in the past there have been some impossible connections at the Route 7/I495 interchange. I don't know personally, I avoid that intersection and that part of route 7 at all costs. But the navigation map showed it as a fairly smooth and direct connection, not a bunch of loop arounds and double backs which I have seen from time to time.
My question - I am wondering if the road really do connect like that, or if there is a mapping error there.
wpegues wrote:Another anomaly I had been tracking and finally made note of involves traveling south bound on the HOT lanes at the Braddock Road exit. The verbal directions are correct, but way out of time between the way the exit ramp is drawn and the directions you get.
The initial notice is not bad, at least you are in advance of the exit somewhat. But that's just chance. When you get the 1/4 mile alert that in 1/4 mile stay to the left - in actuality you are already on the ramp and going up the elevated grade. This is not the case of the ramp connection being at the end of the dotted lines for the exit lane, its off enough that when you are actually on the separated ramp going up hill that you get the note that you need to exit in 1/4 mile. So the ramp connection to the HOT lane is about 1/4 mile too late. It really is a long exit ramp, most are on the HOT lanes since they need to go uphill to meet an elevated road.
We may need to wait for some better aerials, but, some of these that we actually go exploring on we might take to reporting here and to have those that work those specific areas do some corrections, report back, and the next time we travel it after the tiles are updated, report on how close it is.
Mike-1323 wrote:So, after a couple of weeks of the HOT lanes being open along the VA side of the beltway the UR's are pouring in. I put the HOT lanes on the map and have them all set as Freeway with Toll and ramps without. Should this be changed? The wiki recommendation is to make HOV lanes as parking lot roads. Should the new HOT lanes be changed to parking lot roads?
That would prevent the average user from being routed onto the HOT lanes. Many of the UR's are due to users being routed onto the toll Express lanes because they have not checked the avoid toll box in the routing options. With the HOT lanes as PLR the routing server should never route onto the express lanes. The problem is that, due to routing auto-lock and gps error, the users that actually use the express lanes will be getting routing directions from the main travel lanes and will have incorrect exit instructions. (this is currently happening on the I95 HOV lanes in northern VA)
There just doesn't seem to be a good solution.
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