Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

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Re: Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby paulwelch23 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:08 pm

CBenson wrote:Sure it would be great if this page were updated. But unless someone is going to do it, it would be better off removed. It is now so outdated that it provides more misinformation than help.


...Or at least put a banner at the top warning that the information is severely out of date.

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Re: Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby paulwelch23 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:46 am

jasonh300 wrote:Paul, being that I've never seen even the slightest little complaint about any of your edits, you are the exception, in that you took the time to read the wiki and the forums and learned what was necessary to be a good editor.

But the fact that you were able to get to where you are without even having seen this page illustrates what is wrong with the system we have now. Wiki (or forums) exist and these people are Area Managers. This is why we have so many incompetent AMs and even CMs out there.


I do appreciate your kind words, as that is exactly what I try to do. I have had to search hard to find good answers sometimes.

I do agree that the wiki is not in great shape. I see it as disorganized and not streamlined.

This page could be the vehicle where we can point all of the new editors to learn about being an AM. If we are to revise the page, I would think that the following would need to be done in order to do it properly:

I would think we would need to do a thorough search throughout the rest of the wiki to find other areas where this documentation is duplicated and instead place links to this page. This way, this page is the only thing that needs to be updated as the AM process evolves. Furthermore, it would be the sole link where we can point others in the forums.

I think it would be a good idea to keep these ideas in mind whenever we are developing wiki page content. It is frustrating to find conflicting information among various wiki pages.

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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby Xander271 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:33 pm

Thank you. Not much got done to the 101 page except moving the Google AM display map and To-do list from the AM page to 101.

I also added a 'Reference Links' section. I think it will be the most helpful since my goal is to make this page the focal point for any AM question. We should be able to directly answer or link to the answer from here.

I agree with the videos. I've hidden the link till I update them.
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby ncc1701v » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:03 am

That's a lot better already.

On the area manager page (not area manager 101) there is a link to an application doc that is broken.

Are the videos worth linking to or are they way out of date?


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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby Xander271 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:39 am

I started updating 'Area Manager' and 'Area Manager 101'.

Since both 'Area Manager' and 'Area Manager 101' already exist in the wiki and can't be renamed, I decided to work with what we already have.

I've expanded the 'Area Manager' page to be more than just a definition of what and AM is.

1 How to Become an Area Manager
1.1 Required Reading
2 Area Manager application process
2.1 Identifying your area
2.2 Area Manager territory
2.3 The application
3 Area Manager Links
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby txemt » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:19 pm

That's what I'm saying....the entire Wiki should read like that, not just some parts.
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:10 pm

It does in other parts of the Wiki on those very topics. This was a page specific to Area Managers for things that are different than other users.

For all user levels:
The user guide is http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Waze_Version_3.5
The Map Editor starts http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Waze_Map_Editor and has a specific editing section http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Waze ... ing_Manual
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby txemt » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:38 pm

I think it should read like a book with chapters. Make things easier to find. The first page being a welcome page, the second page being a table of contents that gives us directions to where we want to go. If I'm looking for ROAD NAMING, then I go to "Road Naming" and if I have a question about road types, I go to "Roads."

Just an opinion.
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:04 pm

I took a first crack at the page to remove what was no longer relevant, updated the many links, added some new ones, etc.

I did not modify some of the forum links and RSS feeds because I don't use them and have no experience if they are different now. Maybe someone else can go in on top of my changes and do more to it.

It is not a perfect page, but at least we no longer explain things that don't exist.
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Re: Area Manager 101: time to delete/retire/redirect?

Postby mssusa » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:39 pm

Update it. It was one of the first pages I read before I even applied for AM status.

Btw, I like what Jason says. Maybe we can come up with a compulsory test from the wiki that is part of the AM application.

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