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Re: House numbers page

Postby bretmcvey » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:44 am

On the wiki page it appears that house numbers are placed directly on top of the house. Is this the standard that should be applied when editing house numbers? Should the node be closer to the end of the driveway or the likely area of the front door?

For cases where an alley runs behind the house, should it be standard practice to keep the house node slightly closer to the affiliated street?

Will rural housing that's offset further than the standard range from the affiliated road need to be forced to better indicate where the house exists?

Looks like it'll be an interesting new aspect to the editor. Thank you for sharing the link!
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:05 am

bretmcvey wrote:So in saying the second node goes on the house, we should as a best practice try to center it on the house, not the front door or edge where the driveway and house meet?

From the Waze staff:
ohad-ron wrote:I know these guidelines do not answer all cases. We still need to figure out the issues of malls, very long driveways (rural areas), houses that are on a different segment than the one with their official address, etc. However, for 85% percent of the cases this should work:

- House marker - the center of the rooftop of the house.
- Segment marker - the place where you would park if you wanted to park closest to the main entrance to the building, driveway, or an entrance to the building parking lot. Basically - if i get an end user to this point and tell him to look to the correct side of the road he should be able to figure out which building it is.

How waze will use this data:

- The route destination will be the segment marker.
- We will show what side of the street the house is on, using the house marker.
- The rooftops are good data to have, and we will probably use them as we improve our POI search, for display in the map, etc.

I can't promise we will make use of everything right away, but this is the most flexible representation of this data.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:14 am

txemt wrote:Am I to understand that the house numbers node needs to be placed where the driveway and the street meet up?
bretmcvey wrote:On the wiki page it appears that house numbers are placed directly on top of the house. Is this the standard that should be applied when editing house numbers? Should the node be closer to the end of the driveway or the likely area of the front door?
There are two node for each address. The one with the number goes on the house, the other attaches to the associated street and goes at the end of the driveway.

bretmcvey wrote:For cases where an alley runs behind the house, should it be standard practice to keep the house node slightly closer to the affiliated street?
No, see above. The 2nd node is the navigation point.

bretmcvey wrote: Will rural housing that's offset further than the standard range from the affiliated road need to be forced to better indicate where the house exists?
There is a "force" feature built in for this express purpose, as well as out of sequence numbers, odd/even not being consistent, etc. I'm not sure if all editors will have access to it or if it will only be available to higher level editors.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:58 pm

james9becker wrote:I am also concerned that at the end of March Waze noted in the Wiki that the app and the editor could not search on the user entered street numbers. Now it's July and we still can't search on them.:cry:

Yep. Because the result now would be worse routing than we have now due to stop point limitations.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:11 pm

It's in the threads, but some may not be accessible. The plan is to support non-alpha, but isn't available yet. For now, google will most likely supply the address search from the app anyway. Searching the forum for "hawaii hypen" or "hawaii dash" or "address hyphen" or "address dash" would likely get you all the information you need to know about the situation without having to post the question again...
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House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:55 pm

Larry, there is at least one thread about such addresses in Hawaii in the house numbers forum. There may be others, like the Hawaii forum. Do a search for address hyphen or hyphenated and/or Hawaii and I bet you'll get a few relevant threads.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:26 pm

Update added to this page to clarify that new roads need house numbers because Waze isn't likely to import/merge data in the future.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:08 pm

Updated http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Hous ... ME#Forcing with minimum rank info per Ohad.
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:33 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:Split Roads

Do we want to simply say if a road is split be sure to add only house numbers on the side of the street accessible to those drivers? I think it is simple enough to say and understand.

Also split roads have the added complexity of people unsplitting them and losing the house number data on one side of the street (depending upon which segments are kept). I wonder if we need to propose a feature to "merge segments" to retain house numbers and other road details.

I'm not sure we have enough information to act on this yet. We don't know if house numbers should be added to only one side of a split street. Might there be a reason to add it to both? (can't think of any off-hand).

Also, I'm not sure about the merging thing. If you take both sides and put them together and turned to two-way, do all house numbers remain?
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Re: House numbers page

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:06 pm

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:Alan, one thing that you need to add in the flow for forced. If you need to add a house number outside of the allowed area, you need to save the number first in the allowed area then go back and move the markers to where the house/street is.

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