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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:16 pm

I made the edit I referenced above, but did not make the second edit you brought up.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:57 pm

RE: red roads.

The page currently says
These roads may appear on the Waze client but are useless for routing.
but that is incorrect. Red roads created in the editor are used in routing.
I would suggest reorganizing this paragraph slightly to point out how to recognized red roads that will not be used in routing (lack of "updated by" line indicates road was created using pave feature). I will be happy to make this change.

Here is an example:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... s=84154550
and you can see it routed here:
https://www.waze.com/livemap?lon=-75.66 ... =-75.66293

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:06 am

I agree. Hence my efforts with "Welcome to Waze Editing" -- which aims to tell new editors what TO do.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:23 am

Maybe this info on scripts etc belongs in another document for beginners. That one probably has not been written. In the end, it might fit in a companion to this one and a welcome new editors one.

For now, if the info has no better home, I suggest -- leave it where it is. When the obvious future home is built, it can easily be moved. With the usual caveats, validator is a good teaching tool.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:39 pm

With a caution that validator is no substitute for talking to experienced editors, I think it is OK to recommend validator to beginners. When validator finds things that seem to have been done intentionally by experienced editors, or even beginners working with the guidance of experienced editors, they need to ask rather than assuming it should be undone.

And, of course, validator doesn't find incorrect turn arrows. Shift-Z helps with that.

but recommending "what to do" is not the same as cautioning against incorrect edits.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:16 am

Possibly a glossary for editors?
overlap
split
bow tie
detour suppression

One way this might be done is via the SMW (semantic media wiki) extension. But I'm not certain on that.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:29 pm

We agree perfectly :)

I even like all your "wrong this, wrong that" headings. I'll give you a buzz when I make some progress on "my own" (even though I 'll mostly be stealing your material).

Thanks again!

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:07 pm

I think you are correct that we are looking at this from very different points of view. I have a different purpose in mind.I can see now that the changes I made don't match your purpose for the article.
If I were ever to try some editing here again, I would do it with your original purpose in mind.

Please revert my changes.

I really do like the content.
I am thinking of taking a copy and writing a different intro, to make it more of a "welcome to editing; here are some common newbie mistakes you can avoid". If you like the idea, I can even set up a transcludable for the part that is used in more than one article.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:34 pm

OK. I'll start on the first point you just added. I'll let you know when I'm done.
It takes a long time to write briefly.

And if we are on the same page -- I will ask you if it is OK to make it "friendlier" because I see most of the content as perfect to hand to the first-time editor who has not made any mistakes yet.
In fact, as soon as I saw it, I wished I had read it before I had edited anything at all. Especially all those parking lots.... and the odd bridge.


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OK. I changed "misunderstood principals" to "understanding waze principals" and did a little to the first point. In rearranging things, you can see I have caused some change in emphasis. I've dropped "strongly discouraged" in favor of ... sort of .. "don't" because this is beginner-level stuff. I made it less nuanced, I guess.

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Re: [New Page] Responding to incorrect edits

Postby voludu2 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:41 pm

This is one of my favorite articles on the wiki, and I want to keep it as friendly as possible -- or even aim it more at "common editing mistakes"
Would it be OK if I wordsmithed a little to make it shorter and snappier?
Usability, Simplicity, Retention.

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