codgerd wrote:Thanks for the edits; they help with readability. My only comment is that putting the word "may" in italics (twice) rather weakens the statements. It's already written in the conditional, is it necessary to emphasize it further? The impetus for the edit was to flesh out those circumstances in which it can be advisable to use an unnamed segment; the may appears to give more equivocation room rather than less.

qwaletee wrote:Paragraph "In the general case..." - I think this one should be pared down.

Despite all the forgoing - the syntax is ambiguous until you read the last couple of phrases.

Suggested wording (general case):

Usually, the exit ramp name should match the text on the exit sign very closely, but using the formatting instructions above. There are exceptions where the ramp should either not be named at all, or should be named differently than the signs. Some examples appear below.

The remainder of the paragraph really should be together with the bullets below it, and a cross-reference to the unnamed segment article instead of trying to summarize it all into a single sentence.

Despite all the forgoing - suggested text:

Despite all the examples, there are other exceptions, and there are cases where the foregoing exceptions may not apply. A good editor will always analyze the situation, adjust for its context and expected user experience, and use good judgement, editing experience, and collaboration to arrive at the best name. Remember, the overriding principle is to help drivers navigate the route Waze provides. This means providing simple, practical guidance on the approach and transit of an intersection or interchange. Any exit name that fails to do so, despite following rules and exceptions perfectly, is itself a failure.

qwaletee wrote:Paragraph "In the general case..." - I think this one should be pared down.

Despite all the forgoing - the syntax is ambiguous until you read the last couple of phrases.

Suggested wording (general case):

Usually, the exit ramp name should match the text on the exit sign very closely, but using the formatting instructions above. There are exceptions where the ramp should either not be named at all, or should be named differently than the signs. Some examples appear below.

The remainder of the paragraph really should be together with the bullets below it, and a cross-reference to the unnamed segment article instead of trying to summarize it all into a single sentence.

Despite all the forgoing - suggested text:

Despite all the examples, there are other exceptions, and there are cases where the foregoing exceptions may not apply. A good editor will always analyze the situation, adjust for its context and expected user experience, and use good judgement, editing experience, and collaboration to arrive at the best name. Remember, the overriding principle is to help drivers navigate the route Waze provides. This means providing simple, practical guidance on the approach and transit of an intersection or interchange. Any exit name that fails to do so, despite following rules and exceptions perfectly, is itself a failure.

PesachZ wrote:

CBenson wrote:

PesachZ wrote:But you also have to cover exits which have a BGS.

I'm intending to cover exits which have a BGS. Are there exits as we are defining them (i.e. ramps that are part of a grade seperated interchange) that do not have BGSs?

I can't say for certain that there are, but I figured it can't hurt to cover it if you're redoing the guideline anyways. I'm sure there's a few somewhere. And that may be a valid use for naming the ramp based on where it leads

sketch wrote:

KB_Steveo wrote:Another question:

If you have an exit where the local convention uses the street name when providing verbal exits, would it be OK to list the street first instead of last?
For example, no one in Green Bay would say to take the Highway 54 exit, we would just tell someone to take the Mason St exit.

No. We follow the order things are on the BGS because it's simple, uniform, easy to edit, and doesn't require any arbitrary decisionmaking. Even if no one knows or cares that Claiborne Ave is LA-39, the sign has the LA-39 shield first, so we say it first.

(I will note the one exception you spoke of recently in the JSG thread, which I am a fan of and have used myself – moving anything prefaced with "TO" on the actual sign to the end of the string.)