[UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby jondrush » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:31 pm

Looks perfect to me.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby Kobes1878 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:32 pm

sketch wrote:
txemt wrote:What about those which are in between 3 major roads? Where does the address point go? Or those between n/s bound lanes or e/w bound lanes? I'm not at the computer now, but I can provide examples of all 3 of these.

If it's between different roads, it should have at least one PLR through the forecourt. That's where the stop point goes.
jondrush wrote:3 Majors is the same as two. Average the location of the stop point over the pumps.

To that point, on this particular station located between State and County routes, I have the target placed directly above the pumps which happen to be closer to the SR and what would be deemed the main entrance. Would you concur with that placement or prefer to see it more equally averaged on the PLR?
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby jondrush » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:36 pm

3 Majors is the same as two. Average the location of the stop point over the pumps.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby sketch » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:44 pm

txemt wrote:What about those which are in between 3 major roads? Where does the address point go? Or those between n/s bound lanes or e/w bound lanes? I'm not at the computer now, but I can provide examples of all 3 of these.

If it's between different roads, it should have at least one PLR through the forecourt. That's where the stop point goes.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby txemt » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:34 pm

What about those which are in between 3 major roads? Where does the address point go? Or those between n/s bound lanes or e/w bound lanes? I'm not at the computer now, but I can provide examples of all 3 of these.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby Kobes1878 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:33 pm

Thank you for the clear and concise clarification.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby jondrush » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:18 pm

It is absolutely related to stop point. I've tested it on stations that didn't update when I was in the station. I got on WME and move the stop point and was instantly able to update the prices.

I'm not so sure that the in-out loop on single road stations does anything, and I'm reluctant to make it a recommendation because it brings downsides. The PLR through corner and two-side stations pays dividends because it becomes and alternate route through the corner and between roads as people enter and leave different exits.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby Kobes1878 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:54 am

Hi Jon -

Great page and thank you for doing this.

Just a few thoughts:
-In the same vein as sketch's point, IMHO I believe it is important to add a parallel PLR to a station with a single entry and exit point off of the same street - especially if that street is a MH, as in this example BP station . Gas stations areas are supposed to suppress automated ME's but adding the PLR is an extra security blanket to maintain the historical average speed data for the main road.
- Noting the importance of the curb/fence guideline is necessary for the "too small polygon" as you stated. I believe it should also be stressed for the opposite scenario of a "too large polygon". Meaning, The AREA should not touch/overlap any (WME drawn) roads, as this will likely negate the collecting of necessary data as well.

I cannot access the conversation you linked to above, so if these points were already discussed please disregard them.

Just to clarify one thing however, does the target actually cue where the price can be updated from? Are you able to elaborate on this if possible? I was always under the assumption that it was a specific radius for the area place/polygon. Is this something that is subject to change to just drivers in the station or passing by?
Using my example station above, presently the BP will show up when I select Update Prices and I am able to update it, on any of these roads.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:13 am

FYI, I updated the template on the page to a construction box and linked to this thread.
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Re: [UPDATE] Gas Station Places USA

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:09 am

Agreed the station number has no benefit to the driver so it would serve no purpose, but to waste time trying to confirm for editors.
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