[Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:33 am

PesachZ wrote:I have an overhaul of the closures page in the works BTW

That sounds good, too. Things change so fast.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:15 am

I fixed that reference. I'm took out the bit about "some short term closures" rather than change it to a reference to construction closures -- ther really is no definitive information to be found about partial restrictions for constructio related closures, and the user winds up in the article I construction, which seems to need a makeover, and then back to partial restrictions.

The truth is we currently use partial restrictions whenever we fear the stripey beta-WME closures falling off, but that bug and how we mitigate that risk is not currently covered in closures, which is where it probably should be covered, not as one of the primary reasons for using partial restrictions.

Partial restriction can also be used in the process of connecting up new construction, but that could probably better be described in the article on construction, as this one seems mostly to be about the mechanics of partial restrictions, not about the careful process of bringing new freeway segments online just in time.

That's my thinking, anyway.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:56 pm

I cut down on repetition in the lede and the next paragraph, increased the number of outlinks, and eliminated the contradiction. I gave advice on when to consult closures, but did not include all the closures detail in this article. Probably the overview section could use some pruning as well. My eventual goal is to simplify the language, provide enough details to help make good choices, but make the whole thing less wordy and less complicated.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:16 pm

This is a very quick and simple change. Are there any objections to this change or the one I proposed above (which was requested many many pages back)?

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:42 pm

When this topic was started, the proposal was to remove some redundancy between the lede and overview. This has still not been done.
https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 95#p851053

I can do that. I propose to leave the information, meanings, guidance, etc, completely untouched in the process for simplicity. Does this sound OK?

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:06 am

sketch wrote:It is known that a segment restriction will not function for a single segment when you have your destination on that segment. The penalty is assessed at the end of the segment, not the start. Use a time-based turn restriction in addition to the segment restriction in order to make it work.

This should also be in the wiki

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:39 am

Perhaps a friendly email to Ohad-Ron with a link to the wiki information on how HOV lanes are currently done would start a mutually enlightening discussion that will lead to continued enhancements.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:58 pm

I think:
1) improve lede
2) merge much of overview into lede. That's what the lede is for -- overview
3) "controlling traffic" might be reworked into 1 list with wiki-format ;term : definition list (hardly ever used but still handy) instead of two separate lists, and include links to more information and/or how-to's on these other methods of controlling traffic. "controlling traffic" might eventually deserve its own article, but as such a page has not yet been developed, sharpening up this section to reflect the options and use cases as the situation progresses seems like a good idea.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:35 pm

PesachZ wrote: I believe it is more important in the case of reversible lanes so we don't accidentally send someone the wrong way down a freeway.

Is there any situation where it is possible for a driver to follow bad waze instructions and get on a reversing freeway lane in the wrong direction?

These things are handled with movable walls, barrels, and cones, which direct drivers in the correct direction and prevent them coming to head-on encounters. The authorities must have some kind of schedule during which they move the barricades to prepare for a lane reversal, as they do on the chesapeake bay bridge, for example: https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... 4,66981127
(once on that bridge, opposing traffic lanes are separated only by dotted lines and indicated by colored red X, green arrow markings above the lanes)

A wazer might be inconvenienced by being unable to enter the faster lane after it is blocked off by the authorities, but unless they drive over a New Jersey Wall or travelled in opposition to "do not enter" signs, they would be unable to enter a freeway lane in the wrong direction.

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:33 pm

I have just implemented the simpler-lea gauge explanation for https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Partial_rest ... strictions discussed above. If this is not acceptable, please use the "undo" link in the page history.

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