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Post by eaglejm7
It seems that time based restrictions on a private road do not work. My son's school has a road that is private (non-school days it is blocked by gates at both ends), but during school days it is completely closed for an hour in the morning and 40 minutes in the afternoon. In the afternoon, there is a further 2 hours of one way for extended carpool. Since it is gated, it is marked as private. When navigating to a point on that street, the time based direction restrictions appear to be ignored as it keeps routing me the wrong way on the street. When I approach from the other direction (as I always do), it allows routing along the street that way as well.
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eaglejm7 wrote:It seems that time based restrictions on a private road do not work. My son's school has a road that is private (non-school days it is blocked by gates at both ends), but during school days it is completely closed for an hour in the morning and 40 minutes in the afternoon. In the afternoon, there is a further 2 hours of one way for extended carpool. Since it is gated, it is marked as private. When navigating to a point on that street, the time based direction restrictions appear to be ignored as it keeps routing me the wrong way on the street. When I approach from the other direction (as I always do), it allows routing along the street that way as well.

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Northbound should be restricted for a longer period than southbound in the evenings.
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eaglejm7 wrote:It seems that time based restrictions on a private road do not work. My son's school has a road that is private (non-school days it is blocked by gates at both ends), but during school days it is completely closed for an hour in the morning and 40 minutes in the afternoon. In the afternoon, there is a further 2 hours of one way for extended carpool. Since it is gated, it is marked as private. When navigating to a point on that street, the time based direction restrictions appear to be ignored as it keeps routing me the wrong way on the street. When I approach from the other direction (as I always do), it allows routing along the street that way as well.
It is known that a segment restriction will not function for a single segment when you have your destination on that segment. The penalty is assessed at the end of the segment, not the start. Use a time-based turn restriction in addition to the segment restriction in order to make it work.
OK, I will add turn based restrictions this evening - after the scout meeting.
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eaglejm7 wrote:It seems that time based restrictions on a private road do not work. My son's school has a road that is private (non-school days it is blocked by gates at both ends), but during school days it is completely closed for an hour in the morning and 40 minutes in the afternoon. In the afternoon, there is a further 2 hours of one way for extended carpool. Since it is gated, it is marked as private. When navigating to a point on that street, the time based direction restrictions appear to be ignored as it keeps routing me the wrong way on the street. When I approach from the other direction (as I always do), it allows routing along the street that way as well.
It is known that a segment restriction will not function for a single segment when you have your destination on that segment. The penalty is assessed at the end of the segment, not the start. Use a time-based turn restriction in addition to the segment restriction in order to make it work.
OK, I will add turn based restrictions this evening - after the scout meeting.
I believe I have done it correctly. I created turn restrictions into the restricted segment, but not out of the restricted segment.
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Post by Fredo-p
qwaletee wrote:(BTW, I think we need to update guidance on HOV lanes. On the Gowanus Expy in Brooklyn, it is mapped per guidance, but it only creates headaches without solving problems. I would love to take it out, and only add it back in if Waze has better support for HOV making it valuable. For now, it just makes the roads look like headphones coming out of my pocket.)
I agree. In Arizona, we had to remove all HOV lanes unless they were dedicated left-hand on/off ramps. No matter what we did, HOV UR's kept popping up and created a nightmare of troubleshooting.
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I know a read a discussion a while ago about HOV lanes and one possible issue that made sense. That issue was that Waze may have a hard time figuring out if a driver is on a highway, HOV lane, or has skipped an off ramp due to GPS accuracy.

Is the GPS accurate enough to be able to determine if a driver has switched from the HOV/HOT lanes to the freeway/highway? I see this as a problem if a driver is on the HOV, skips an exit cause its not one they agree with, and have to wait for waze to reroute after it figures out they are on the highway. I've seen this happen when I skip an off ramp. Waze things I'm still on the off ramp until I'm passed it. If a driver does this, waze would most likely put them on the highway and not the HOV when a new route is given.

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Post by ialangford
5 isn't long enough. 10 would be good.
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Post by jemay
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CBenson wrote:Thus if you set up of HOV lanes properly with time/vehicle restrictions, then all vehicles will be prohibited from the HOV lanes during the times that the HOV restrictions are in place. This is a distinct advantage over using parking lot roads for HOV restrictions that are not in place all the time. As with the restrictions waze will route over the HOV lanes when the restrictions are not applicable. With parking lot roads, the HOV lanes will never be routed on.
One thing I have found as a user of the I-395/95 HOV lanes in Virginia is that, if you set the "private vehicle" restriction on the HOV lanes, and a driver enters the HOV lanes during the hours that the restriction is in effect, Waze will always instruct the driver to leave the HOV lanes at the next exit. (This is different from what happens if you drive onto a parking lot road.) To avoid this, don't restrict the HOV lanes themselves, but instead restrict all the entrances to and exits from the HOV lanes. Then, if a Waze user drives on the HOV lanes, Waze should direct them to the exit that is actually fastest for them to reach their destination. (This will also provide more accurate instructions in the edge cases, as where a Waze user reaches the entrance to the HOV lanes one minute before the restriction takes effect.)

Note that if this method is used, it is crucial that all exits be restricted correctly; if one is missed, Waze will route everyone on the HOV facility to that unrestricted exit segment.

We might want to add this to the Wiki page.
If you set anything to restricted vehicles (Truck/HOV/Bus... only allowed), when you get recalculated and your are on said restricted segments, because the client is set as a "private vehicle", you get "proceed to the highlighted route" until the next segment (with NO turn instructions!) that does not have the restriction. So the approach of only putting the restriction on the entrance, and if appropriate, the exit is the best.
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Post by kentsmith9
Thanks for doing this one. I will add my comments after a day or so when things get calmer on my real life side of things.
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