[Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby voludu2 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:03 pm

RE: clarifications for new editors.
Frequently, new editors, after reading this page, still ask whether the check boxes apply to ALLOWED or FORBIDDEN times/dates/vehicles, even though this is spelled out in the very first sentence.

I suggest a modest change at https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Scheduled_re ... strictions

FROM:
Both segment and turn restrictions are created and edited using the same user interface, but each one is accessed through a different method discussed above.
[... image ... ]
Configure the restriction as required using the guidelines described for each setting


TO:
Whether you are working on a segment or turn restriction, choose the day of week, time of day, date range, and/or vehicle type to be restricted (forbidden).
Follow the guidelines below for each setting.
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Also, I have already changed
FROM:
may only restrict a few house per day

TO:
may only restrict a few hours per day

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby trukkurt » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:09 am

As we are now using the Road Closure Form for reporting construction closures, I think the last bulleted item in the introduction of the Partial restrictions wiki article needs to be edited. The part I think needs editing attention is shown below in red.

A partial restriction prevents some, but not all, traffic from making a turn, or from using a road in one or both directions. Partial restrictions may be scheduled restrictions (time-based restrictions), block certain vehicle types (e.g., truck restrictions) or both.

The typical use cases are:
    *dedicated public transit (bus) lanes
    *turn restrictions during heavy traffic periods (e.g., rush or commute hours)
    *directionality changes to accommodate heavier flow on a bridge or tunnel in one direction in the morning and the other direction in the evening
    *seasonal road closures, gates, moveable bridges and ferry lanes
    *short term construction (long term closures should use disconnected roads, though time restrictions may be used to synchronize the start or end of the closure period)

Further down in the same article, it states
Disconnect road segments - Road segments should only be physically disconnected if the road is no longer intended to connect or is being permanently removed. In the past, this method was used for longer term construction projects, but now the Road Closure form should be used.

These two parts seem contradictory. If we are still suggesting to disconnect roads for NON-USA editors in this wiki article, then the wiki article needs to be revamped to give different instructions for USA and for NON-USA editors.

If you decide to make the introduction reference the Road Closure Form (USA) , then I think both parts of the article should hyperlink to the Road Closure Form (USA) to minimize the "hunting" for the link the wiki reader needs to do.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:44 pm

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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:53 pm

The beard doesn't match the hair, but that's sorta true for my own beard as well. :D
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:34 pm

eaglejm7 wrote:It seems that time based restrictions on a private road do not work. My son's school has a road that is private (non-school days it is blocked by gates at both ends), but during school days it is completely closed for an hour in the morning and 40 minutes in the afternoon. In the afternoon, there is a further 2 hours of one way for extended carpool. Since it is gated, it is marked as private. When navigating to a point on that street, the time based direction restrictions appear to be ignored as it keeps routing me the wrong way on the street. When I approach from the other direction (as I always do), it allows routing along the street that way as well.

It is known that a segment restriction will not function for a single segment when you have your destination on that segment. The penalty is assessed at the end of the segment, not the start. Use a time-based turn restriction in addition to the segment restriction in order to make it work.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:13 pm

These are all really good ideas. I wish Waze would give more attention to this feature.

It'd also be nice to be able to add a restriction on a temporary basis, using a road-closure-like functionality (I get a lot of emails from LaDOTD about lane closures where traffic is allowed, but no loads over 12 ft wide). Although, Waze isn't really what oversized loads should be relying on :D

If this is implemented, though, we'd have to have a lot of heads-up, and probably an import of data from another source – because one missed height restriction can mean big trouble.

Anyway, this thread is for how to handle the guidance for the current system, and not a request thread that Waze might listen to or monitor.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:19 am

CBenson wrote:
PesachZ wrote:I can agree with 5 minutes if we can rely on the server to update often enough to account for delays. I believe it is more important in the case of reversible lanes so we don't accidentally send someone the wrong way down a freeway.

Makes sense to me. I agree that not routing a few people within a few minutes of reversible lanes opening is much preferable to routing anyone on reversible lanes while they remain closed.

I will also agree on a five minute maximum for this. I suppose the same could be applied to time-based turn or segment restrictions, but I don't know.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:21 pm

I support this decision and also whatever it was I supported on the previous page or two.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:48 pm

Yes. See, e.g., the last sentence of my penultimate post.
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Re: [Update] Partial restrictions (time and vehicle type)

Postby sketch » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:45 pm

Oh, duh, I wasn't thinking. Anyway, the rest of my explanation still applies ;)
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