[NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby CBenson » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:56 pm

Is the criteria: "A single No-Name segment is over 400 meters long."

The original guidance during the beta testing was "the length of all of the no-name segments together is more than 400m." Did that change at some point?
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby deeploz » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:15 pm

I prefer version 2

A clear concise statement, valid in most conditions, easy to catch for the newcomers. Then, if they want to refine their understanding, they go deeper into the caveats.
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby dmcrandall » Tue May 05, 2015 11:53 am

Assume. It will assume the name of the next named segment?
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby HavanaDay » Tue May 05, 2015 1:24 am

assigned?

IE
If you make that AGC unnamed it will be assigned the name from the next segment on the route.
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby moweez » Sun May 03, 2015 10:59 pm

As promised, here are my comments.

I like the division into a primary, simple page and an extended, detailed page

To me, the addition of the sentence: Named segments connected to the unnamed segment which are not part of your provided route, are not relevant.
rather confuses than clarifies concerning the core message, as was also mentioned by some other foreign editors. could this sentence be mentioned only in the expanded version?

IMO, The primary page should be as simple as possible, just the core message without bells and flags and all kinds of conditions, so the core message is easily understandable for people from all backgrounds. If one wants to know more, one can go ahead to the expanded page.
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby moweez » Tue May 05, 2015 8:18 pm

why don't make it as simple as possible: "use" or 'take" will be understood by most people, even if they just have started reading English. "Get" can be ambigious, borrow and asume are more difficult, let alone get assigned.

Readibility score (Flesch Reading Ease) of the words together with "a name":
use; take 119.19
borrow 90.99
assume 90.99
get assigned 75.88
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby moweez » Tue May 05, 2015 8:31 pm

voludu2 wrote:And does it matter if we use active "uses", "gets", "borrows". Or passive "is assigned"


I have learned that writing in active style is better comprehensible and will stick longer.

I have learned that active writing is better compehensible and sticks longer.
:D

Also, my favorite word for this context is "use"
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[NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby PesachZ » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:27 pm

Hi everyone, I started working on a draft for a new page Road name inheritance.
My intention is to publish it as a subpage to the global Road Names page as [[Road_names/Road_name_inheritance]], and then add a link to it from the road names page ([[Road types and names]]). I would also like to transclude it into the Road_names/USA page as its own section.

Other countries may choose to link to, or transclude it into their local guidance as they see fit as well.

Comments, critiques, support? please reply.
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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby PesachZ » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:10 pm

sketch wrote:I remember someone mentioning in a Hangout that the concept of "inheritance" could perhaps be reworded to be more accessible to non-native English speakers. Having given it some thought, is there any reason we couldn't call this article "Unnamed roads" or "Unnamed segments"? It'd explain the way that unnamed segments work, which is basically what this does anyway.

That someone (moweez) has offered to work on a simple English version of the page and report back when ready for consideration.

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Re: [NEW PAGE] Road name inheritance

Postby PesachZ » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:59 pm

CBenson wrote:Is the criteria: "A single No-Name segment is over 400 meters long."

The original guidance during the beta testing was "the length of all of the no-name segments together is more than 400m." Did that change at some point?

Thats just how it was explained to me, if you know it to be otherwise we can change it pending test results.

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