[UPDATE]Segment Length

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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby Kartografer » Tue May 10, 2016 6:27 pm

What is the criterion for establishing sufficient consensus for wiki updates like this?
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby kentsmith9 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:21 pm

voludu2 wrote:It would be more precise to say:
Waze will add junctions to reduce the length of any segment longer than 100km (formerly this limit was 10km). There are several good reasons to keep segments shorter than 10km.

I did see the post from Staff and confirm.

This sentence is not truly accurate because Waze was not adding junctions in the past at any distance. Maybe this alternate statement would be more accurate and universal:
Although Waze bots will add junctions to reduce the length of any segment longer than 100km, there are several good reasons to keep segments shorter than 10km.
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:37 pm

I think we have collected enough feedback in this thread. I see agreement to the changes discussed above.

Voludu2, if you want to make the changes you noted and also include the adjustment I had for one of the entries, I think we are good. Please link the reason to this forum topic (plus some basic description to help those reading the history without coming here).
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby PesachZ » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:32 pm

I like it

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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby RussPA » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:08 pm

I think it's been proven that you can edit anything about a segment (except for the opposite end node) as long as part of it is within your edit area. The only remaining question is whether or not there is an upper limit to the length of a segment before this proves not to be true. It should be a quick test to make a much longer segment and try it out, and answer the question once and for all. I am curious to find out.
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby RussPA » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:26 pm

I think 99km is more than long enough for any road anyone may come across in WME.
As they used to say on that myth-related TV show, I think we can call this one "confirmed".
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[UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby voludu2 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:56 pm

From
https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Segment_length#Too_long

* Segments that extend outside of an editor's [[Waze_Map_Editor#Editable_Area|editable area]] cannot be modified in any way. Keeping roads shorter than 10,000 meters reduces the chances of editors running into more roads with this restriction.


This statement is not entirely accurate. I can change the segment geometry nearly as much as I like. I can't change the segment properties.



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Testing:

Test 1:
6.6km railroad segment , extending 4.6 km outside of my editable area, with one junction inside and one outside my editable area.

I AM NOT not able to:
* change its name or any other properties
* make changes at the junction which is outside my editable area

I AM able to:
* change its geometry, even adding, deleting, or moving geometry points well outside my editable area
* Make changes at the junction that is inside my editable area.

Test 2:
short street segment with one junction inside and one outside my editable area

AM able to:
  • Change the segment name
  • create a new junction node (cut with dummy driveway) INSIDE my editable area.[ img ]
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  • make changes at the junction that is inside my editable area
  • change geometry throughout the entire length of the segment.
AM NOT able to:
[*] create a new junction node OUTSIDE my editable area
[*] make changes at the junction that is outside my editable area
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby voludu2 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:51 pm

I would like to modify this page as follows:
for
There are no system operation issues that require limiting the length of a segment, but there are a number of reasons that would make things better by limiting the length.

I would like to replace this with
Waze limits segments length to 100km (formerly this limit was 10km). There are several good reasons to keep segments shorter than 10km.


for
* Segments that extend outside of an editor's [[Waze_Map_Editor#Editable_Area|editable area]] cannot be modified in any way. Keeping roads shorter than 10,000 meters reduces the chances of editors running into more roads with this restriction.

replace with
* Editors cannot change the name or properties of segments that extend outside of an editor's [[Waze_Map_Editor#Editable_Area|editable area]]


And, finally, to remove
* At one time there were issues surrounding segments over 10,000 meters. The junction may be present due to this reason alone

This last item does not belong in a list of reasons to keep segments under 10km in length, because it is not a reason for keeping segments under 10km in length.
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby voludu2 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:37 am

It would be more precise to say:
for
Waze will add junctions to reduce the length of any segment longer than 100km (formerly this limit was 10km). There are several good reasons to keep segments shorter than 10km.
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Re: [UPDATE]Segment Length

Postby voludu2 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:42 pm

Sorry I missed your post back before my hiatus, and didn't catch it in January.

Here's the summary:
There are some inaccuracies in https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Segment_length#Too_long

  • What can and cannot be edited on segments partially outside the editable area -- see The first post in this topic
  • The waze team has let us know segments can be up to 100km long (previously, they took action to limit them to 10km long)

Here is a draft of the proposed rewrite for that section:
https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/User:Voludu2 ... h#Too_long
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