Procedure for editing global pages

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Procedure for editing global pages

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:01 am

If you find edits needed on a Wiki page that is marked as a Global page, be sure to follow the Wazopedia procedure on editing global pages.

That page also includes the complete flow diagram for the entire procedure if you are interested in learning more about it.
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Re: Procedure for editing global pages

Postby CBenson » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:43 pm

I must confess I'm still baffled how this process is supposed to work.

What is someone who is not a wiki master, wiki moderator or champ supposed to do to get a change to the global wiki approved? Is approval even required?

When speed limit editing was enabled in WME last November, there were several editors who proposed changes to wiki to document the changes to WME. As far as I'm aware, none of the changes have been made in the past three months.

For example, we now have this post posted a week ago, currently with no response and thirteen views.

The only place wiki masters or wiki moderators are mentioned in the Protocol for editing global pages is to say that alterations to formatting, templates, transclusions or links genarally should include oversight from the technical Wiki Master and that the Wiki Moderators will ensure that any changes which are made have followed the protocol. The protocol is silent regarding who makes the edit.

What the protocol does make clear is that consensus must be reached in the forums before an edit is made. However, I'm not sure what is required for consensus when there are few comments to a proposal and no substantive objections. I'm not understanding where the approval of the Global Wiki Masters is supposed to fit in this process. Can an editor simply propose a change to a global page in the forums and then if no one objects go ahead and make the change with the knowledge that the Wiki Moderators will monitor the Global Pages and address any improper changes?

The post linked to above is about this proposal discussed here. In reading the flow chart it seems to me we have proceeded 001>002>003>004>006>037. Now who decides if consensus has been reached? How does the average user know if 019 has happened or will ever happen? Can someone who has taken the time to draft a proposed wiki change at some point just presume that in the absence of any objections that they may proceed through 039>040>042>043? That would bring us to 022, which is in the Wiki Moderator level of the chart, but seems will never happen in this case. So should the person who made the proposal just make the change?
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Re: Procedure for editing global pages

Postby stephenr1966 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:44 pm

CBenson wrote:I must confess I'm still baffled how this process is supposed to work.

What is someone who is not a wiki master, wiki moderator or champ supposed to do to get a change to the global wiki approved? Is approval even required?

When speed limit editing was enabled in WME last November, there were several editors who proposed changes to wiki to document the changes to WME. As far as I'm aware, none of the changes have been made in the past three months.

For example, we now have this post posted a week ago, currently with no response and thirteen views.

The only place wiki masters or wiki moderators are mentioned in the Protocol for editing global pages is to say that alterations to formatting, templates, transclusions or links genarally should include oversight from the technical Wiki Master and that the Wiki Moderators will ensure that any changes which are made have followed the protocol. The protocol is silent regarding who makes the edit.

What the protocol does make clear is that consensus must be reached in the forums before an edit is made. However, I'm not sure what is required for consensus when there are few comments to a proposal and no substantive objections. I'm not understanding where the approval of the Global Wiki Masters is supposed to fit in this process. Can an editor simply propose a change to a global page in the forums and then if no one objects go ahead and make the change with the knowledge that the Wiki Moderators will monitor the Global Pages and address any improper changes?

The post linked to above is about this proposal discussed here. In reading the flow chart it seems to me we have proceeded 001>002>003>004>006>037. Now who decides if consensus has been reached? How does the average user know if 019 has happened or will ever happen? Can someone who has taken the time to draft a proposed wiki change at some point just presume that in the absence of any objections that they may proceed through 039>040>042>043? That would bring us to 022, which is in the Wiki Moderator level of the chart, but seems will never happen in this case. So should the person who made the proposal just make the change?


Has this discussion been moved to a private forum for Champs and/or Wiki-Masters? Could we get an update for the rest of us? Carl raised some interesting questions regarding how "the rest of us" could get a change implemented. Would be nice to have a more public answer to said questions.
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Re: Procedure for editing global pages

Postby CBenson » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:46 pm

This is the update that is guiding me. That's a public post is it not?
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Re: Procedure for editing global pages

Postby stephenr1966 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:37 am

So, if I'm reading that post correctly we have not been able to update any (nominated) global page since April? Even when we have pages out there with known bad data? When will this wiki editing moratorium end? (Please don't say soon™)
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Re: Procedure for editing global pages

Postby kodi75 » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:51 pm

Are we (you) not adding this {redirect} to the rest of the major (old) wiki pages? For example,
https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/State_Manager

should automatically redirect the reader to

https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/State_Manager
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