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[Daknife]

Time for a bump, based on this question https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33447&p=333311#p305597 in the newcommers sub-forum. It seems to me we've reached a consensus as to the limited scope of landmarks that should be emplaced. Can one of you wonderful Wiki-masters work on getting the Wiki to echo the limited list of acceptable Landmark/POI's to be placed. The question that prompted this post was about Malaysia so it wouldn't be a total answer but if we can point to a limited list in the US perhaps it can help establish a standard for limited lists elsewhere as well.

[Daknife]

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[Daknife]

It's something they were doing in CA at least. I've never actually seen how they show up, as there are very few Shell stations in Utah and none near me. But it's been well discussed due to a coupon/discount campaign they were running with Shell in CA. It was supposed to be a forerunner of things to come as Waze finds ways to monetize Waze.

[Daknife]

And I recall a thread where someone in Europe posted a map pic regarding some other issue but it was solid landmarks, with roads weaving between them and names overlapping the landmarks to the point that some of them I couldn't tell which landmark they belonged to.

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One more point/question with landmarks: Regarding the landmarking and naming of local businesses be they large or small, could a user labeled business being on the map somehow conflict with a Waze marketing agreement like they have with Shell stations? Could Shell complain about all the Chevron and Texaco stations being landmarked for free while they are paying for their advertising agreement (granted I understand the Shell stores get a Shell Logo whereas the competitors would just be landmarks. I don't think it should be an issue, but could it be?

[Daknife]

I'd say National Forest should NOT be landmarked, A National Park or Monument yes but not a forest. Besides how are they accounting for private land mixed in with the National Forest? Well based on your complaint about towns inside the "landmark" not at all, but that is an issue. I vote to delete such a landmark.

[CrackedLCD]

I'm almost positive there's a setting that can be altered in the preferences file to change how landmarks are shown. But I would support a menu option to turn them all on or off.

We're not supposed to landmark businesses in the US, yet now gas stations show up because they're part of the landmark layer now. That's one thing I wish could be hidden. Judicious use of the landmark feature is sort of ruined by having so many gas station landmarks at busy intersections.

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[CrackedLCD]

I've asked the developers to make the Parking Lot Roads less visible both in the client and in the editor. My suggestion was to make them look similar to the way Pedestrian Boardwalks look in the client.

Aren't road widths controlled by the schema files on the device itself? Seems like I edited one of the themes to make dirt roads appear brown and the same width as paved roads. I'll have to investigate narrowing parking lot roads and see how it looks!

Edit: I looked, I don't see anything that differentiates private and parking lot roads from anything else. Bummer.

[CrackedLCD]

I'd be all for making PL roads display like dirt roads in the client, a thin single pixel line. And they need to make dirt roads more visible so those of us in rural areas can still see them on the map. As they are now, they are thin and don't display the street name or cookies on the client.

[CrackedLCD]

I wasn't aware that Shell was doing this. None of my local Shell stations appear on the map in any form, except for the ones I put there.

[CrackedLCD]

Yes, I name them. In most cases, that means one word...Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc. Are there really that many gas stations in one area that they would cause clutter?

It could get that way if every station is landmarked and named. Right now I'm only doing some of the larger stations/truck stops and ones that throw system errors. But I can see the potential for it to get messy, especially if other nearby shopping centres and other landmarks are extensively labelled.