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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CrackedLCD » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:03 pm

jasonh300 wrote:9. Gas stations suppress traffic. That's never been in question.


Do you name gas station landmarks? I've been naming the ones that were put in to suppress traffic, but I think after a certain number of them are drawn it starts to clutter the map too much.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CrackedLCD » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:27 am

jasonh300 wrote:
CrackedLCD wrote:Personally I would like to see the parking lots mapped only over parking areas, and a separate landmark could be drawn for shopping malls or other nearby large buildings. I'm not sure how it'd look on the map, though.


Check out Edgewater Mall in Biloxi, MS. I drew in the mall separately from the parking lot. Waste of time. There's no obvious difference on the client.

I could've just drawn one large landmark around the perimeter, set it as Parking Lot, and named it Edgewater Mall and it would have have the same effect.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT


:| Aw, that's disappointing. I was hoping it would be contrasted or a different colour or brightness having two landmarks atop one another.

In that case, why should we even label malls and other big landmarks anything other than parking lot, if they all look the same?
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CrackedLCD » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:07 pm

AndyPoms wrote:What are your thoughts on which parking lots to map & how to map them? We need to have a discussion to figure this stuff out...


I'm still sorta new, so I don't know a whole lot about what affects what just yet, like whether drawing parking lot roads will suppress traffic information as well as a drawn parking lot landmark. So I can't really comment on which is more appropriate. But I'm only for drawing/mapping large shopping mall parking lots, or commuter lots, or parking garages. I've tried to use the parking lot landmark feature to suppress traffic reports and errors in smaller lots and it won't stick if it's not above a certain minimum size. I really don't know the solution other than to draw parking lot roads on tiny but otherwise high traffic off the road areas.

Personally I would like to see the parking lots mapped only over parking areas, and a separate landmark could be drawn for shopping malls or other nearby large buildings. I'm not sure how it'd look on the map, though. I think I'm going to do a test case at a small shopping strip near here and see how it looks once the map updates.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CrackedLCD » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:01 am

AndyPoms wrote:I Created a wiki page with the list of Landmark Types (US) & point users to this discussion so people can weigh-in on which ones they think should be included... In the code tag below is the list of types so you can copy & paste it so you don't have to retype it... I will post my comments in a separate post below...


Well, that was weird. The forum ate my last post.

I'm not so concerned with the list of landmarks as they currently exist as I am simple things like, do parking lots only include parking lots, or the entire shopping centre? It's a mix of both right now in my area. And do shopping center/mall landmarks only trace the buildings, or the entire property? That's a mix of both here, too. And if someone draws a parking lot landmark, is it now pointless to create parking lot-designated streets under it, and vice-versa?
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CrackedLCD » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:57 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:I'm glad to see that the UK is labeling junctions. I've been doing that for my AM area and I've gotten comments from other local Wazers that they like the result on the map. It is of course basically the last thing I do after getting geometry, naming, turns, road type, etc etc taken care of.

I, though, have NOT been snapping the landmark to the roads but have been making the landmark slightly larger than the actual interchange.

Simple example

Complex example

Dual exits (could also do via one landmark with a name such as "I-40 Exit 368 / I-75 Exit 84")

I just always found roads and landmarks snapped to each other to be annoying for some reason.


I like the way that looks but was specifically told not to landmark junctions by another higher-tiered user.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CBenson » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:34 pm

Den_in_USA wrote:Would it be a problem if I created a parking lot road and called it a dirt road so that it appears different on the map?

I think it might be a problem as waze treats these differently. I believe the characteristics of parking lot segments include: a significant routing penalty when transitioning to a non-parking lot segment, suppression of jam display and suppression of MPs. You lose these features if you use dirt road. Further, dirt roads are avoided in routing if the user has that setting selected in the client.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CBenson » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:35 am

jasonh300 wrote:6. POIs are searchable in the client and have been for quite some time. They don't show on the client though and won't unless a landmark is placed.
Just to be clear, the POIs searched aren't the landmarks in the waze database, correct?
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby CBenson » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:53 am

My opinion is the landmarks list is slightly modified list of the TIGER objects that were available during the basemap import. I don't think there has been much significant thought about how appropriate this list is for the purposes of waze.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby BlazeTool » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:46 pm

jasonh300 wrote:I've been asking the developers to make the parking lot roads much less visible in the client, so that they won't clutter up the map as much. I've also asked them to make them gray in the editor so they'll be visibly different from streets and not clutter the editor screen.


Here's hoping they do it. Personally, I'd like to see PL roads not display at all in the client and be their own layer in the editor that can be turned off. Visual clutter goes away, problem reports for parking lots can go away. Only drawbacks would be it's still data to be transferred to the client and the extra nodes could effect routing times. Not sure if there are ways to avoid that.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby Bigbear3764 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:08 am

AndyPoms wrote:Fire Dept: In most places they are considered a "Safe Haven" and you can get emergency medical care there or if they are on a call there is a call box out front. Most maps mark these - It's worth it.



Maybe because I work at one, but I agree. In Illinois, they are a safe haven to drop off new borns, no questions asked.
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