Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby orbitc » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:40 pm

I am a little confused from your initial post now. The JSG link is a good example of how to link to the Wiki to a specific page. Are you trying to link to a particular section of that document?

Yes, I gave this as a reference point. He/She had other question that I knew this page would help.

Or were you trying to find something specific on "end nodes" and could not find it yourself so you used that JSG as a substitute?

Initially, Yes. I wanted to pin point the "end node", But, I believe that is covered as dead end.

Did you have "end node" as your search and that turned up lots of seemingly unrelated pages in other languages?

Yes, I got multiple answers and there were many with other languages as well.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:04 pm

OK. I think the other thread I started in the Wiki forum on End Points will solve that problem for future searches. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby orbitc » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:45 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:OK. I think the other thread I started in the Wiki forum on End Points will solve that problem for future searches. Thanks for bringing it up.

Thank you for your help
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby Mike-1323 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:22 pm

Searching for "toll" or "toll road" does not return the toll roads as a page title match or a page text match. However, searching for "toll roads" takes you directly to toll road section of the best map editing practice page.

Shouldn't the best editing practices page at least show up as a match for the first two searches?
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:22 am

Mike-1323 wrote:Searching for "toll" or "toll road" does not return the toll roads as a page title match or a page text match. However, searching for "toll roads" takes you directly to toll road section of the best map editing practice page.

Shouldn't the best editing practices page at least show up as a match for the first two searches.

In a word, Yes. :mrgreen:

The problem is our Wiki seems unusually limited in its search capability. Wikipedia does a much more effective job at coming up with "possible" matches compared to what the Waze Wiki will do. Perfect example of the feedback we need from Wiki searches. Every time I look for something in the Wiki, if I cannot find it I keep looking until I do and then link the prior searches through redirects to help future searches.

So I added redirects for both of those terms and "Toll booth" to link to the best practices page. I then cross linked that entry to the Segment properties page that shows the Toll Road check box and vis-a-versa.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby CBenson » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:34 pm

I would suggest that key words like "address" result in finding the new "House Numbers" page.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby kentsmith9 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:27 pm

CBenson wrote:I would suggest that key words like "address" result in finding the new "House Numbers" page.

Good idea. In fact since there are a couple of uses for "Address" I created a disambiguation page for address.

If there are other uses for Address we can add them as well.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby HandofMadness » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:04 pm

"Service Road" and "Service Roads" should pull up the USA Road Types page on the first page of results. I got UK and Italian pages that discuss road types, but not the USA page.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:46 pm

shawndoc wrote:"Service Road" and "Service Roads" should pull up the USA Road Types page on the first page of results. I got UK and Italian pages that discuss road types, but not the USA page.

Since we can't make a redirect because these are not country-specific, we may need Kent and his wiki-foo to figure out how to get them appear higher.

However, since this road type is going to be removed anyway, I'm not sure there's a point in expending much effort on improving wiki searches for it.
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Re: Improve Wiki Searches - List what you could not find

Postby russblau » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:43 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
shawndoc wrote:"Service Road" and "Service Roads" should pull up the USA Road Types page on the first page of results. I got UK and Italian pages that discuss road types, but not the USA page.

Since we can't make a redirect because these are not country-specific, we may need Kent and his wiki-foo to figure out how to get them appear higher.

However, since this road type is going to be removed anyway, I'm not sure there's a point in expending much effort on improving wiki searches for it.


I dunno; people are still going to want to know how to handle service/frontage/access roads in the editor, even in the absence of a specific road type.
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