Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:00 pm

McCracken808 wrote:I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.

I've never seen this. We know there are issue if there is no junction, but not that you can't route at all. What does it do? Just say it can't find the destination? Or does it end navigation early?

FYI, the recommended disabling of u-turns at dead-ends has been discussed a lot in the forums and the guidance was previously added to the wiki: https://www.waze.com/wiki/Map_Editing_Q ... nd-streets

Perhaps it needs to be added in more than one place, or we need to stop duplicating information on multiple pages.
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:00 pm

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AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
McCracken808 wrote:I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.

I've never seen this. We know there are issue if there is no junction, but not that you can't route at all. What does it do? Just say it can't find the destination? Or does it end navigation early?


Mayhap only on an island? ;)

Waze will place a marked at the added stop, but does not route to it. It gives an ETA of 1 min no matter where the added stop is.

This definitely doesn't happen over in the US mainland.

I just did this quick test route. In the editor, you can see the route ends on a dead-end road with a restricted/locked u-turn.

Here is the screenshot from the app, showing proper info for the destination:
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:45 pm

McCracken808 wrote:Yes, I agree that a route will terminate on a dead end, but I'm referring to an added stop.

Hrm. Ok, I'll have to try that now. :)
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:27 am

McCracken808 wrote:Yes, I agree that a route will terminate on a dead end, but I'm referring to an added stop.

Ok, I completely agree with you.
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby dknight212 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:14 pm

McCracken808 wrote:I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.



Yes, we've seen this too.

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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby dknight212 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:01 pm

When we tried it we got failed to find route.

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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby iainhouse » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:20 pm

Looks good!
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby McCracken808 » Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:04 pm

I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby McCracken808 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:57 pm

dknight212 wrote:
McCracken808 wrote:I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.



Yes, we've seen this too.

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
McCracken808 wrote:I have discovered that an added stop will not route to a dead-end/cul-de-sac unless there is a U-turn enabled at the end.

I've never seen this. We know there are issue if there is no junction, but not that you can't route at all. What does it do? Just say it can't find the destination? Or does it end navigation early?


Mayhap only on an island? ;)

Waze will place a marked at the added stop, but does not route to it. It gives an ETA of 1 min no matter where the added stop is. This has been happening for quite a long time (year?) before I discovered it and placed a u-turn on a parking lot dead end where my favorite watering hole is. Also, I live on a cul de sac and to make an added stop to my house I've had to place a u-turn. I assure you that Waze will not route someone into my neighborhood just to turn around. Although, I do realize that if u-turns on dead-ends and cul-de-sac are made global, that could lead to odd routing.
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Re: Junction Style Guide - dead ends/Cul-de-sacs/loops

Postby McCracken808 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:44 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:This definitely doesn't happen over in the US mainland.

I just did this quick test route. In the editor, you can see the route ends on a dead-end road with a restricted/locked u-turn.

Here is the screenshot from the app, showing proper info for the destination:
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Yes, I agree that a route will terminate on a dead end, but I'm referring to an added stop.
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