txemt wrote:Am I to understand that the house numbers node needs to be placed where the driveway and the street meet up?

bretmcvey wrote:On the wiki page it appears that house numbers are placed directly on top of the house. Is this the standard that should be applied when editing house numbers? Should the node be closer to the end of the driveway or the likely area of the front door?

bretmcvey wrote:For cases where an alley runs behind the house, should it be standard practice to keep the house node slightly closer to the affiliated street?

bretmcvey wrote: Will rural housing that's offset further than the standard range from the affiliated road need to be forced to better indicate where the house exists?

bretmcvey wrote:So in saying the second node goes on the house, we should as a best practice try to center it on the house, not the front door or edge where the driveway and house meet?

ohad-ron wrote: I know these guidelines do not answer all cases. We still need to figure out the issues of malls, very long driveways (rural areas), houses that are on a different segment than the one with their official address, etc. However, for 85% percent of the cases this should work:

- House marker - the center of the rooftop of the house.
- Segment marker - the place where you would park if you wanted to park closest to the main entrance to the building, driveway, or an entrance to the building parking lot. Basically - if i get an end user to this point and tell him to look to the correct side of the road he should be able to figure out which building it is.

How waze will use this data:

- The route destination will be the segment marker.
- We will show what side of the street the house is on, using the house marker.
- The rooftops are good data to have, and we will probably use them as we improve our POI search, for display in the map, etc.

I can't promise we will make use of everything right away, but this is the most flexible representation of this data.

ohad-ron wrote: I know these guidelines do not answer all cases. We still need to figure out the issues of malls, very long driveways (rural areas), houses that are on a different segment than the one with their official address, etc. However, for 85% percent of the cases this should work:

- House marker - the center of the rooftop of the house.
- Segment marker - the place where you would park if you wanted to park closest to the main entrance to the building, driveway, or an entrance to the building parking lot. Basically - if i get an end user to this point and tell him to look to the correct side of the road he should be able to figure out which building it is.

How waze will use this data:

- The route destination will be the segment marker.
- We will show what side of the street the house is on, using the house marker.
- The rooftops are good data to have, and we will probably use them as we improve our POI search, for display in the map, etc.

I can't promise we will make use of everything right away, but this is the most flexible representation of this data.

The house number itself should be placed the center of the rooftop of the house. For large buildings such as box stores which have a single address, move this alignment more towards the main pedestrian entrance to the building. For addresses within malls, center the address over the space of the business, just like for a house.

• For larger box store addresses with more than one primary entryway (assuming entryways are on the same side of the store) place the Stop Point at the front edge of the building but equidistant from both of those entryways.
• For a buildings with multiple entryways, but on differing sides, place the Stop Point centered atop the building itself.
• Gas stations... would the Stop Point be best placed at the front door of the gas station, or centered over the canopy for the pumps?

CBenson wrote:Why not route there and see?

AndyPoms wrote:

bretmcvey wrote: Will rural housing that's offset further than the standard range from the affiliated road need to be forced to better indicate where the house exists?

There is a "force" feature built in for this express purpose, as well as out of sequence numbers, odd/even not being consistent, etc. I'm not sure if all editors will have access to it or if it will only be available to higher level editors.

bretmcvey wrote:I've already tested out under level 4 status and the force feature worked for setting stop points beyond the standard distance as well as for handling some streets where the house numbering may not follow the conventions of keeping the numbers in numerical order.

bretmcvey wrote:I'm curious if the client is yet utilizing the new stop points. I've tried one rural example with a longer private drive. I'd assume that given the stop point's position, using that particular address would route to the primary street affiliated with the address and then up the private road that terminates near the stop point.

kentsmith9 wrote:I assumed this would be a straight forward answer. If you get routed . . .