Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

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Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:53 am

I am using the new Wiki management templates to start the work to remove and replace the older Cartouche pages with current ones. If anyone has any concerns around this effort please respond.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:47 am

Note that it appears the best solution will be to move them to an "Archive" namespace. They will be accessible from the Advanced Search page, but will not appear under a normal search.

Now I just need to get Jackson to get the devs to create that namespace for us. ;)
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:48 am

Delete with a good redirect to /wiki.html with a 30 second splash page that states the page no longer exists due to old info or never did exist.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby jondrush » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:39 pm

Option 3
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby banished » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:20 am

Option 1 (delete). So long as the pages exist there's a need for someone to manage them and I am uncertain that is outweighed by their historical value. Just because something can be saved, doesn't mean it should.

One of the 15 freaking hats I wear is file server administrator. It's not my job to manage the files, but the server operation. File servers are used as a dump for anything someone thinks might be of value to someone else someday. When that "someone" leaves for other employment (every 3 years, roughly), the files sit there unnoticed forever. Even if someone does notice them, they're afraid to delete them since they aren't their files. Then people have conniptions when the server runs out of space and suggest buying another server to hold everything. :roll:

In short, my experience informs me it isn't a good business practice.


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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:00 pm

txemt wrote:The page said "obsolete" but the editor didn't care, cuz it made his point valid. I showed him the updated wiki, and he still hung onto the old page he found. 2 days later, he was blocked for other reasons.

Got it. Irrationality is hard to defend against. :roll:

Our likely outcome from this will use templates on old page names that automatically redirect to the most appropriate current information. You will have to work hard to get to an old page, but it will still be there if you know how to search all namespaces. And then we will still have headings on the page saying it was deprecated and should not be used as a current reference.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby txemt » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:59 pm

The page said "obsolete" but the editor didn't care, cuz it made his point valid. I showed him the updated wiki, and he still hung onto the old page he found. 2 days later, he was blocked for other reasons.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:48 pm

When you see them be sure to let the Wiki Update forum know so we can get the right updates in there.

Off-hand do you remember any of them, or know some right now that don't say on the page the data is outdated? We are working on building some message boxes to help track (for updating) old or questionable data that we may not be able to immediately address.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby txemt » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:34 pm

I've had 6 editors point to obsolete pages so far this year, so I say either change the info and make it relevant or delete them if there is no useful info on them.
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Re: Removing/Replacing Obsolete Cartouche pages

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:23 pm

Option 3.
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