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Re: Driveways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:49 pm

Riamus wrote:In many cases, a specific driveway may never be routed to in Waze, so adding it would be moot. I'd be okay in that kind of a situation with a person adding their address or someone else's that they go to or whatever, but not to adding every driveway on the street.

These are examples where marking the driveway is required based on search results putting the GPS pin on the house itself. Without driveways for both cases, which don't fit nicely into the guidelines as I've understood them in this thread so far, routing will be incorrect.

It doesn't matter if this is internal or external address data as the location of the houses in relation to other streets is the problem.
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Re: Driveways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:30 pm

I think these all fit within the guidelines, but just to exemplify common issues with proper routing.

https://www.waze.com/editor?zoom=6&lat= ... -122.48828
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The top horizontal road has houses on its south which are closer to the private road south of them. (Those can be adjusted.) The private road is required to navigate properly to the house at the western end. Note that address is 95% closer to Maple Hill Ln rather than 172nd Ave, which is where its address comes from.

Then south of that there another private rd/named road pair. The private road wouldn't be necessary except the public named road, which serves several houses, is so darn close, that in order to differential which to turn onto, the private road becomes necessary, otherwise the driver is sent down Wooded Heights to get to it, and it's fenced apart and so you have to back up and head into the gated private entrance to the intended address. Streetview.

These kinds of situations, especially the 2nd, don't happen a lot in urban areas, but the western (currently) less populated states deal with this all over the place.
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Re: Driveways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:11 am

Thanks for starting this thread.
mapcat wrote:- Don't map private driveways serving single residences or businesses, unless they are especially long (how long?).

I think previously I've posted 50m or greater.
mapcat wrote:- Don't map drive-thrus at fast food, banks, etc.

This is changing. To provide routing off a main road to give proper turn instructions, and to keep traffic speed from being impacted by drive-through users, this is becoming more advisable. However, these are parking lot roads, and not driveways, and should be discussed elsewhere. So let's take this item off the list.
mapcat wrote:- Map driveways when they serve multiple residences. Name them according to the street they lead from, and add house numbers for each residence.

There also needs to be an allowance for two residences which are off the main road, fairly close together, but with separate driveways. Having two visible on-screen with one being the routed-onto one can provide very necessary guidance. These driveways are often parallel to each other for quite a distance and can have a fence between them, making it impossible to cross from one property to the other.
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Re: Driveways

Postby akpolarbee » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:48 pm

Should some of it depend on local situations? It's not uncommon where I live to have multiple subdivisions where everyone has 500m driveways. They are all marked at the beginning of the drive and are rural enough that no mapping software is going to confuse your location, other than knowing you aren't on the road at all.
I think mapping all those driveways would just lead to a cluttered map.
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