Driveways

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Re: Driveways

Postby Riamus » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:49 pm

Dead end? Most perhaps, but certainly nowhere near all. Many are loop driveways or have access to two different streets. I really don't think we need any decision on what a driveway is. I think everyone knows what a driveway is. That isn't the issue here. The issue is how or when to map a driveway.
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Re: Driveways

Postby russblau » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:30 pm

jondrush wrote:
1. Nearly universal agreement ("Rules"?):
a. Map driveways that serve multiple distinct addresses or properties.
b. Do NOT map driveways less than 10 meters long or that serve a single address or property.
c. Mapped driveways should be marked as "Private Road".

2. General agreement ("Guidelines"?)
a. Map driveways over 50 meters
a2. Map driveways if Waze might confuse being on that driveway for being on an adjacent street or vice-versa.
b. Map driveways if the address coordinates are likely to route to an adjacent road that is inaccessible to the address.
d. Do NOT map driveways just to resolve a UR or system generated error.
e. Do NOT map driveways just because they appear on other mapping services.

3. No current consensus ("Things to consider"?)
a. Name the driveway according to the street to which it's attached.
b. For named driveways, add house numbers.

I think the minimum should be 10m. I altered some other comments for grammar and split 2a into two topics to discuss separately.


Suggest inserting 2(a3):

Map a driveway if it has its own street name and at least one address is assigned to that name, regardless of length.

In some rural areas, there are private "roads" that are basically glorified driveways, but have street signs and house numbers assigned to them; this guideline would avoid any question about whether such "roads" qualify to be mapped.
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Re: Driveways

Postby russblau » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:14 pm

JJLatWayz wrote:
jondrush wrote:
1. Nearly universal agreement ("Rules"?):
b. Do NOT map driveways less than 10 meters long or that serve a single address or property.

I think the minimum should be 10m. I altered some other comments for grammar and split 2a into two topics to discuss separately.


If you change "do NOT map driveways less than 5 meters long that serve a single address or property" to "do NOT map driveways less than 10 meters long or that serve a single address or property", that would seem to lower the consensus and change it from an agreed rule to a general guideline.


Really? 10 meters is still a pretty trivial driveway. I just mapped my driveway out of curiosity (and then deleted it) -- it is 41 meters, out to the centerline of the street (so the street probably accounts for 2-3 meters of the total length). That's a bit longer than average in northern Virginia, but not by much. This is for a house that fronts directly on the street. Go out a mile or two west of where I live, to where the 2-acre lots are, and you'll find plenty of driveways that are well over 100 meters long.

EDIT: A 5-meter long driveway, allowing at least 2 meters for the distance from the end of the driveway to the center of the street, would basically be one car-length long. If you have a pickup truck, you wouldn't be able to park it in this driveway without the bumper sticking out into the street. That's a ridiculously low cutoff.
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Re: Driveways

Postby russblau » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:12 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:
mapcat wrote:
Riamus wrote:However I would not recommend naming the "Private Road / Driveway" unless the name it is clearly visible to the driver as they approach the road in question.

Well, I can tell you for a fact that at least in some places (Sussex Co DE) there are some private roads that have a name and at least one address assigned to them, but they sometimes have no visible sign and look like a driveway.
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Re: Driveways

Postby shawndoc » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:32 pm

Someone should start a new thread for the Drive Thru discussion.
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Re: Driveways

Postby shawndoc » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:16 pm

jasonh300 wrote:
jdeyoung wrote:The need to have a driveway has more to do with the closest point to wherever a geo-coded address is indicated.


This is not a reason to have a driveway. The Waze internal addressing lets you assign both the location of the address (e.g. over the building), and a point on the road for an address (where the driveway meets the road).


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Re: Driveways

Postby shellshock2872 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:43 pm

Driveways should be to single houses not business, only to resident
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Re: Driveways

Postby shellshock2872 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:18 pm

I know I just putting my input, so it can be considered
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Re: Driveways

Postby shellshock2872 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:07 am

Driveway should come off a road or street or private street or private road
Driveway could be dirt or hard ball, it should have one way in the other end should be a deadend. To the
Building, it does not have a name it just tells people which house number to turn into,

Waiting on the ruling for this
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Re: Driveways

Postby shellshock2872 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:19 pm

Where driving in a parking lot is still makes it a parking lot not a driveway
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