Again I am ambivalent regarding spraying PLRs on the map. I do not believe that Gas Station landmarks suppress traffic reports. So its arguable whether PLRs perform a benefit or not and thus are truly unnecessary or set a bad example.

However, I am in basic agreement with you. We likely have better things to do than put a parking lot road through every gas station at this point. But they are very helpful and should be encouraged where the gas station has entrance/exits from multiple streets. Even if we do want a PLR road in every gas station, we shouldn't just imply that through the stop point language. So the wiki should be clarified either way. I'd be fine with saying that the stop should be on the PLR where the gas station has one and state that gas stations should have a PLR where they have exits/entrances on multiple streets. I would not say that gas stations that have entrances on only one street should have their PLRs removed.

I think that gas station APs do suppress MPs, but do not suppress traffic data.

We might want to get a second opinion on my understanding. I am looking for some authority to cite, but have only found my own previous statements.

If it's already in place, leave it. If a station is on a corner, I believe there should be a PLR across the station. It doesn't have to follow the layout of the station exactly, but it does need to connect to each street.

(Is this really the primary thread for discussing the Gas Stations wiki article? Hardly any traffic. I hope somebody will let me know if I'm posting in the wrong place.)

There's a implication in the article I think is incorrect and needs clarification.

The article says the stop point should be on a PLR. This is true, if there is a PLR that goes through the station. However, it implies that every station needs a PLR, and that I do not believe is true.

My last understanding was that only corner-type stations with access via multiple streets need a PLR. This is so that Waze doesn't try to route drivers a weird way to get there via the address street when there's an entrance on an easily-accessed side street.

But stations NOT on a corner, that are accessed from the addressed road only, do not need a PLR and indeed doing so would just spray unnecessary PLRs on the map and set a bad example. Is that correct?

I think we're all in agreement that (1) stations with access from multiple streets should have a PLR, and (2) the stop point for a station should be located on the PLR. It makes sense to update the wiki to indicate this more explicitly. I am glad to take care of that and report back, unless somebody beats me to it

I hope I will be forgiven for bleating a bit more about what I would consider unnecessary PLRs.

If a station is not located on a corner, then as far as I am concerned any PLR serving that station is a short driveway, and we don't map short driveways, right? To map driveways for gas stations but not for, say, convenience stores, seems inconsistent to me unless the gas-station AP does not suppress traffic data. That's a critical question.

Regarding suppression of traffic reports, I don't know the answer for sure (perhaps nobody does except Waze, and they ain't talkin'). However, when I was a new editor I found a "Missing Road" MP at this rural corner:

https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... 515.132061

Having just read that the gas-station AP (landmark, at the time) suppresses map problems, but not being quite so aware of PLR issues, I put this gas station in. I guess I must have found the little April 2013 square from wherever it was located, and moved and resized it to cover the whole station.

Since then I'm not aware this location has thrown a single MP. Of course they quit generating MPs regularly later, but I think several months went by before that without any MPs here. Who knows!

(p.s. Yes, I know it needs a PLR! I'll add it.)

CBenson wrote:I think that gas station APs do suppress MPs, but do not suppress traffic data.

Ooooooh, well, that's a horse of a different color if there's potential for Wazers making brief stop-and-go visits at gas stations to pollute the speed data of nearby roads.

Given this, I would agree 100% with your perspective. Let me see what I can do with the wiki language.

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