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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby nhanway » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:46 am

kentsmith9 wrote:Nice work so far.
nhanway wrote:I cant figure how to make step 3. move over to line up with the others... Currently its all the way over on the right... So if you can fix that, GREAT!

Does this look like you wanted?


The #3 is still all the way over to the right side of the page.
"Draw segments on both loading ramps using the same road type as the ferry. These 3. should have the correct city name entered on each side and "Ferry Loading Ramp" in road name field for both. (Editor Note: We do this step because it gives some separation from the ferry and the ferry's slow waiting lines. This allows for better routing)"
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nhanway wrote:Also maybe it would be a good idea to add a list of Ferry Experts at the bottom. Editors that have mapped and have a great deal of experience with ferries. Like myself. And include links to there contact information.

I wonder if that should be put either on the talk page (once we move this to the live page) and/or here in the forum. (IMO) I don't think the main page for Ferries would be appropriate.


Okay with me. It was just an idea.
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:49 am

It looks great on my side. I added another internally formatting template. It may fix what you are seeing. Can you post a screen shot?
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby CBenson » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:53 am

That's not what I was seeing last night when I clicked on your "Does this look like you wanted?" link, but it does look like that now for me. Do you need to close the browser or something to see the current formatting?
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby nhanway » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:14 pm

The 3 in step 3 is in the correct location now. I'm not sure what was happening but is all good now.

So any objections to moving all this from the talk page to the actual "how to map ferries" page?
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:50 pm

nhanway wrote:The 3 in step 3 is in the correct location now. I'm not sure what was happening but is all good now.

Like I said I added a formatting template that for some reason was not required in my view, but was for yours. That template should prevent it from being a problem either way now.

nhanway wrote:So any objections to moving all this from the talk page to the actual "how to map ferries" page?

I do not, but I would recommend we rename the new page to simply "Ferries" as a more general page name. That way we can add other information on Ferries that is not necessarily how to map them.

When creating a new page you have two options:
1. Go into edit mode for the page, copy the content, and then create a brand new page with the desired name. The result is a first page entry in the history with the entire content as one entry. The history for the changes are no longer present, but since this page was a collaboration in the forum I don't think it is useful because nhanway was making changes on behalf of himself and other inputs. This method leaves the original temporary page in tact which is not good, so we just need to delete it. I can do that after the other page is created.

2. Use the Move option to effectively rename the page. This can be done between namespaces like we need here going from the Talk page to the Main namespace. This will keep the history of all prior edits and will not require deleting the old page since it is just renamed.

So I propose #1 for this page as explained above.
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby nhanway » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:35 am

I created a new Ferries Page. I linked it to the Waze Map Editor page. You can now delete the How to add Ferries page. I'm not sure how to do that.
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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:51 am

Excellent. I reset the old page to a redirect to the new in case someone searches that exact name.

I went through and added a number of internal Wikilinks to the new Ferries page. That point out a number of missing redirects to what I thought were commonly searched terms for other operations. For all of those I created new redirects to the appropriate Wiki section.

The section on Future Ferry Support is better placed on the talk page since it could inspire discussion. I moved it there and also put a link from the main page.

The talk page also links back to this forum entry.
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Ferry Mapping page

Postby sketch » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:11 am

Resurrecting this thread since it's not that old. I only have a minor point or two.

First, the obvious: the new developments with the "ferry" type, and a note not to use that type yet.

Next, the obscure: the naming standard. Instead of a slash, we should use a hyphen—the slash will cause a TTS pause, while the hyphen will not. So, ditch "Canal St / Algiers Ferry" in favor of "Canal St - Algiers Ferry". (Of course, if it has only one name, use that.) The latter sounds like the name of a ferry; the former sounds like a street or a ferry. (This is the same reason I do not use a comma between city and state when both are included together on a sign.)


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Re: Ferry Mapping page

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:27 pm

Seems like a good idea.
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Ferry Mapping page

Postby nhanway » Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:35 pm

These are both good ideas. I'll make the changes later today if someone else doesn't get too it first.

Also, if this hasn't been done already, we should add a note on the road types pages saying not to use the ferry road type yet. Also link the road types pages to this ferry mapping page.
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