Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable roads

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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby sketch » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:21 am

jasonh300 wrote:I wouldn't say "years", but I was assured by an admin that the MPs would no longer be handled this way, which confirms (to me) that it was once handled that way. I can't find the emails now, but I believe the end result was that "not identified" now prevents that MP from appearing again.

I say "years" only because all the "Last edited by ign_*" seem to be from 2012. It may have been a bit less than that. Either way, I am sure I read that "not identified" now prevents the MP from reappearing over a year ago.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby jasonh300 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:58 pm

sketch wrote:
txemt wrote:
voludu2 wrote:Then the style/best practice for this should also clearly state that any MPs which arise as a result should be closed "not identified", just to be clear that we aren't going to let an MP tell us what to do.


No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.

This is very old information. IGNs haven't edited segments in years. Not identified is correct for MPs. Think of it as "not a problem".


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I wouldn't say "years", but I was assured by an admin that the MPs would no longer be handled this way, which confirms (to me) that it was once handled that way. I can't find the emails now, but I believe the end result was that "not identified" now prevents that MP from appearing again.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby txemt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:36 pm

They've mostly been doing places. The few random segments I've seen, I don't remember the circumstances of said segments (lock level, road type, etc).
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby bgodette » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:04 pm

txemt wrote:I've seen them editing in various places, specifically places. I found a few segments (random) in dfw from December 2014, so they're still editing.
But not as a result of MPs, and for this particular issue of emergency access connectors between *ways, they would be unable to do anything if the *ways are locked as they should be.

The whole MP discussion is silly since the Wiki would have us not connect them which throws MPs just like not having the segment.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby txemt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:20 pm

I've seen them editing in various places, specifically places. I found a few segments (random) in dfw from December 2014, so they're still editing.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby sketch » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:14 pm

txemt wrote:
voludu2 wrote:Then the style/best practice for this should also clearly state that any MPs which arise as a result should be closed "not identified", just to be clear that we aren't going to let an MP tell us what to do.


No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.

This is very old information. IGNs haven't edited segments in years. Not identified is correct for MPs. Think of it as "not a problem".


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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby bgodette » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:04 pm

txemt wrote:
voludu2 wrote:Then the style/best practice for this should also clearly state that any MPs which arise as a result should be closed "not identified", just to be clear that we aren't going to let an MP tell us what to do.


No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.
But would be unable to do anything since they cap out at L3.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby voludu2 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:23 pm

txemt wrote:
No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.


If you close it solved, it will return before the end of the week.

Have you found any recent IGN edits to segments?
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby russblau » Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:37 pm

txemt wrote:
voludu2 wrote:Then the style/best practice for this should also clearly state that any MPs which arise as a result should be closed "not identified", just to be clear that we aren't going to let an MP tell us what to do.


No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.


Guidance on this in the wiki is now to the contrary. https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Map_Problems_in_Waze_Map_Editor#Interface_Elements.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby txemt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:24 am

voludu2 wrote:Then the style/best practice for this should also clearly state that any MPs which arise as a result should be closed "not identified", just to be clear that we aren't going to let an MP tell us what to do.


No, don't ever close an MP as "not identified." IGNs get involved then.
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