Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable roads

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Re: Road Types (USA) – drivable dirt roads

Postby dbraughlr » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:51 pm

sketch wrote:I don't care if there are several houses on a dirt road if there's a parallel paved road a quarter mile away. Even a wide, graded dirt road is often rife with holes and bumps.


This sounds a lot like the argument that Waze should avoid streets with speed bumps because obviously the city street department does not want through-traffic and drivers (lumbar vertebrae and car suspension come to mind) do not want to use such roads when there is a smooth, paved alternative ¼ mile away.

If the drivers go slowly on bumpy roads, Waze avoids those roads. The paved alternative wins on the speed data.

Perhaps Waze should alert the driver when allowing tolls, major highways, and/or dirt roads would would save considerable time or distance.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – drivable dirt roads

Postby dbraughlr » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:55 pm

Proposal:
Say something like we use the functional class with the exceptions that a road can be upgraded based on local knowledge of function to produce better routing (what happened to the idea that a city wants people to use certain roads and not cut through on residential streets even if they are faster?), or downgraded to dirt where local knowledge is that the road does not really serve its designated function because there is a paved alternative.

All dirt roads are not equal. Graded and rolled dirt roads that are wide enough for opposite-direction vehicles to pass without slowing down are quite different from single-lane Forest Service roads that ford streams and have steep gradients. Even with gravel roads, there are those that are good roads and those that I consider to be dirt roads. Waze has to distinguish between them so that it can discriminate between them for routing where they are the only choices. Many won't have speed data. There might not be continuous cellular data coverage.

Local knowledge can apply some objective criteria. Do school buses and/or package delivery services (e.g., USPS and couriers) use the dirt road? If so, it probably is at least a street.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby juliansean » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:24 am

Because the section of road I was working had the preference changed back to neutral, I haven't been able to click the AM icon to find editors who could edit that type. When I find the next one I will check it out. Thank you for letting me know about it.

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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby SanzClew » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:57 am

PesachZ wrote:I wrote that since we will not be the only ones reading this thread, and others later might be confused.


Excellent point, as always.

FzNk wrote:Sorry, I missed PZ's post and wasn't intending to dog-pile on the point.


LOL... i prefer the term smushing... it's all good.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby FzNk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:54 pm

Sorry, I missed PZ's post and wasn't intending to dog-pile on the point.


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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:18 pm

SanzClew wrote:Thanks - my thought was that a R3 AM probably had toolbox.

I wrote that since we will not be the only ones reading this thread, and others later might be confused.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby SanzClew » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:19 pm

Thanks - my thought was that a R3 AM probably had toolbox.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby FzNk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:38 pm

SanzClew wrote:From your PL in a post above, that segment has a list of AM's who can edit that in the box at the left - the screenshot below hows the link to click:

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Keep in mind that's not a stock feature. I believe it's from Toolbox.


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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:47 pm

SanzClew wrote:From your PL in a post above, that segment has a list of AM's who can edit that in the box at the left - the screenshot below hows the link to click:

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Just FYI that list and PM link buttons you see are added by scripts and not all editors can see them.
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Re: Road Types (USA) – comprehensive overhaul of drivable ro

Postby SanzClew » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:20 pm

From your PL in a post above, that segment has a list of AM's who can edit that in the box at the left - the screenshot below hows the link to click:

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