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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:54 pm

Thanks for the wiki update.

How about the idea to generalize this page to cover "map update" instead of only "tile update". Is this a good plan?

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:26 am

Per Waze dev team: Changes to segment speed do force a tile build:
https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p1285910

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:24 am

That is interesting.
So a new area place is immediately available for place search by name.
Or a new alt name, or name change.

But the appearance on the map -- e.g. change to shape -- happens at tile update.

What about name change Appearance on the map for area places? Does that wait for tile update?

What about a segment name change, or addition of a new alt name for the segment?
Is that available for search by road name immediately? Or not until tile update?
Waze app "fulfills" search results for segment name for roads that don't exist in Google. What about for roads that do exist in Google maps?

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:23 pm

PesachZ wrote:Place creation can go live immediately,

Thanks for that update. Do new area places of suffice to size also show up on the map within minutes? In the app after refresh? In live map?

With this correction to which things go in the "updated with tile" list and which go in the "updated immediately" list, what do you think of the concept of generalizing the existing page to include what all editors should know about what we know about when/how changes get "on the map" as well as when they become available for search?

The search index may not update as quick so it may be hard to find a new place by name, but a a new residential place which updates routing destination worked perfectly within minutes for me this week.

This information could go under updates to what is available for search.

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:24 am

At one time, all changes to the map happened at the time the tile they were on was updated.
So "map tiles" covered all the ways map updates happened.


Now, "map updates" includes
* updates that happen when the tile is updated (such as new places, creation or edits to segments, house number) - some trigger tile update while others do not
* updates that happen immediately (such changes to place names and other place details (?), creation or edits to closures)
* updates to search index -- once a HN or residential place address is saved, it might be uploaded with the tile it is on, but might not replace previous results in the address search index until some future date

I would like to generalize this page to cover all the ways in which the map gets updated, call it "map updates" or something similar, and keep this current page title as a redirect.

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby voludu2 » Sat May 02, 2015 3:33 pm

We have a page called tile updates, with a discussion link to this topic.


I think the page needs to be moved to "Map updates" with redirect.

I just heard that HN changes are updated maybe once or twice a week, regardless of tile update schedule.

Changes to existing places go live immediately(once approved, if they are PURs)
RTCs go live immediately
City polygons are regenerated on some schedule we know very little about.

So it is not all about the tile update schedule anymore.

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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby TTJustin12 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:49 pm

voludu2 wrote:At one time, all changes to the map happened at the time the tile they were on was updated.
So "map tiles" covered all the ways map updates happened.


Now, "map updates" includes
* updates that happen when the tile is updated (such as new places, creation or edits to segments, house number) - some trigger tile update while others do not
* updates that happen immediately (such changes to place names and other place details (?), creation or edits to closures)
* updates to search index -- once a HN or residential place address is saved, it might be uploaded with the tile it is on, but might not replace previous results in the address search index until some future date

I would like to generalize this page to cover all the ways in which the map gets updated, call it "map updates" or something similar, and keep this current page title as a redirect.



I would like to see this added to the Wiki. As a newer editor learning the ropes and climbing the ranks I am constantly directed and referencing the Wiki. A page dedicated to such things referenced as "Map Updates" would work as well as still having the "Tile Updates" page that is also just as significant. It would be really nice to have a page to reference that show pretty much how anything is updated on the map, which I believe the wiki is missing.
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby sketch » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:06 pm

Nothing there on time-based restrictions, at least TBSRs? Does "turn restrictions" encompass TBTRs?
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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby sketch » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:08 am

Sounds good to me.


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Re: [New Page] Map tiles

Postby sketch » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:12 pm

I don't remember, but I believe it was within the past few weeks. Probably between 1-3 weeks ago. I couldn't find anything with a Google site search, so it may have been in a Champs forum.

From what I understand, the 10% tile update process updates 10% of all tiles with each update, in case any changes that wouldn't force a tile update have been made to the map (say, time-based restrictions). So, if I update a tile to test tile update triggering, there's presumably a 10% chance my results will be irrelevant.
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