[Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:05 pm

DwarfLord wrote:Since the WME continues to offer "Parking Lot", as a Place Area, for direct access via the write menu, it seems logical to locate the discussion at a higher level in the wiki structure with links as appropriate. I'm delighted to comply with any way of accomplishing that you suggest, I'm new to wiki structuring.

The actual structure is more about association so when you are on a page you can see the parent pages like [[Places/Areas/Parking Lot]]. That tells you this parking lot information is bound under Areas under Places. Then we also have links from other related pages, and we create redirects from other descriptions and terms.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:54 pm

Seems OK at this point.

The main Places page will likely include all the descriptions of the basic entries with little question or controversy. The areas or points that have more discussion would likely link to a subpage to better explain them. In that case it may be fine to have all sub pages be direct under Places, rather than Places/Area and Places/Point.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:08 pm

I am good. Minimally be sure to get Alan's feedback since he started the Places page. I have not followed this thread 100%, but as long as you have addressed the comments so far we are probably OK. Keep the construction template on while we sort through the new feature just in case.

A few things I would address before moving it over so it is part of the original page (see process to move page below):

1. Our style guide follows Wikipedia and we should use sentence caps on page names and sections unless it is a proper noun.

2. In the first section you have "Area." This is probably too vague for the average user.

I created a page you can copy and paste your content. Since this is the initial page creation, there is not a lot of need to keep the history of your modifications. This copy/paste method will create the page as a single entry in the history and then start tracking new changes from there.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:46 pm

If most of our Places are one or the other, can we just focus on calling them "Parking Lot Places?" Then in the details we decide if they are points or areas.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:52 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I would like to see the current convention as posted in other places in the wiki, especially in the current Places page, of "Area Place" and "Point Place" updated.

I am not sure I know what you meant here. Are you referencing following the Wiki Style Guide or something different?
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:23 am

If there are specific pages that we no longer want to support, we can change them to redirects to the new page. Remind me which page it is and I can work back to the sources to redirect to the new page.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:51 pm

Ah. I see there was some confusion from my subpages proposal.

The [[Places]] page should have a section called something like [[Places#Special considerations]]. In that section we have a paragraph that explains Parking lots are a little unique in determining when to create them. It will then have a link to the subpage [[Places/Parking lot]]. If there is only one place that is questionable, then we just make it a section called "Parking lot considerations" as the only exception, but we still link to the subpage.

The reason for this is to prevent massive pages that are hard to sift through. More than a couple of screens worth of information can be overwhelming to newer users. It is also harder to edit massive pages, like this one may get over time as we flush out other issues around places.

I can make these changes in the next day or so unless someone as adamantly opposed to it. I hope not because this is the direction we have already decided on JSG for example.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:13 pm

No problem. I can implement the change. I see you made some changes to the content on the basepage. No worries. I can ensure we keep the change and still see what is modified on the history.

I can work on this later today or by the weekend.
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:58 am

Complete. I guess until we have more detailed notes on other places, we can just have Parking Lots be the only entry. Should we link the table on the Place page to the Parking Lot subpage?
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Re: [Updated Page Proposal] The Parking-Lot Place Area

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:52 am

Parking lot linked. There are a few others we could wikilink like

  • Junctions
  • Gas Station
  • Ferry
  • Tunnel
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