Wiki Update - April 2014

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Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:46 am

The Wiki version has been recently updated to better support our work for our upcoming translations.

One of the most visible updates is a new editor interface that appears as your default setting. You can change back to the original setting by going to your preferences page on editing and you can either:

Check the Show WikiTextEditor

or

Uncheck the Show edit toolbar

You can also use these same settings to enable the WikEd plugin.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:54 pm

Newer features in this latest set of updates:

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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:56 pm

It appears the new editor is doing some additional modifications to pages without telling users about the change. We will investigate if this can be avoided, or what action we would like to take from here.

In particular we have found:

  • Wikilinks are being capitalized when unnecessary causing some Wikilinks to affect sentence structure when not using the alternate text format. Meaning this is OK [[Article name|what you want to appear on the page]], but this gets capitalized unnecessarily [[article name]] (example).

  • Line break "<br/>" characters are being added to the text when not necessary, causing unnecessary clutter in the Wiki page code. (example)
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu May 15, 2014 6:43 am

Additional unintended changes identified:

  • Line Break (<br/>) characters being added between Category types unnecessarily. (example)
  • Category Types getting sort keys added unnecessarily. (example)
  • No Break Spaces being added where not necessary. (example)
  • Bold notation being reset from ''' to <b>. (example)

I will see if the Waze Wiki expert can check into these elements to stop them.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:25 am

The Waze Wiki team is still trying to resolve the above problems that come from the new WYSIWYG editor, but in the mean time users are making changes to the Wiki pages and don't realize that new editor is making a mess of pages they edit.

As of today I am requesting all Wiki editors to change their user preferences to not use the WYSIWYG editor until it can be fixed.

  1. Go to User Preferences for Editing

  2. In the Editor section uncheck Show edit toolbar. Consider enabling the other settings shown here for other improved experiences while editing:
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  3. For a more visually helpful editing experience in the Wiki, consider adding the WikEd plugin. It comes with a very extensive set of toolbar options, color coding Wikimarkup content, and a partial WYSIWYG interface with no side effects. This is not mandatory of course.

  4. As I find pages showing the ill effects of the WYSIWYG editor, I will notify the user of the problem and ask them to stop using it. Failure to stop using the WYSIWYG editor will result in a short term block of the Wiki to protect it. Continued failure to comply will force a permanent block.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby edsonajj » Thu May 22, 2014 5:20 am

Ha! So I'm not crazy in having disabled it because I didn't like the wiki markup that was coming from using the new editor. :geek:

I would suggest for the staff to disable the newly added editor so that those who don't read this forum don't continue to mess things up.

Additionally I would add the request to include the new VisualEditor developed by MediaWiki that is both native to the software and in my opinion more user friendly than any other option.
It has officially not yet been released but it is already being used on some of the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis because it is very stable. If they find it suitable for their huge amount of traffic and edits then it should be for Waze too.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu May 22, 2014 5:28 am

edsonajj wrote:Additionally I would add the request to include the new VisualEditor developed by MediaWiki that is both native to the software and in my opinion more user friendly than any other option.
It has officially not yet been released but it is already being used on some of the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis because it is very stable. If they find it suitable for their huge amount of traffic and edits then it should be for Waze too.

Yes we have been considering add that as well.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby Fredo-p » Thu May 22, 2014 5:47 am

Does enabling/disabling Rich Text Editor also cause any issues or is it just to the "edit toolbar" option?
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu May 22, 2014 6:02 am

Fredo-p wrote:Does enabling/disabling Rich Text Editor also cause any issues or is it just to the "edit toolbar" option?

The Rich Text Editor is the WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor. The link to enable it is somewhat masked with the option I noted above. There are toolbars for editing associated with that editor, but frankly the toolbars with the WikEd plugin I mention is much better from my experience and has no drawbacks for making changes and edits unknown to the user.
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Re: Wiki Update - April 2014

Postby Fredo-p » Thu May 22, 2014 6:41 am

Awesome. I've had WikiEd installed for some time now. I'll make sure to remove any things selected in the RTE.

In regards to the WikiEd, where can I find some detailed instructions to install it in Chrome using Tapermonkey? Keep getting an Update redirect every time I go to any wiki site. If need be, I can create a separate topic to ask about this so as not to bog down this topic with unneeded discussion.
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