Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby PhantomSoul » Fri May 02, 2014 2:48 am

I see what you mean. The BUSINESS, ALT, SPUR, etc. are probably less important in the shield on the map display than in the actual navigation, especially if you have to choose a turn based on a route's main line vs one of its loops or spurs. The letter suffixes in NY are a tougher call though, because the letter suffix appears natively in the shield after the number on the same sign piece.
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby sketch » Fri May 02, 2014 2:53 am

In every case they're part of the route name. I wouldn't want an "89" shield on 89A just like I wouldn't want a plain "90" shield on 90 BUS. Google does that and it's infuriating (and potentially confusing).

90 BUS is a different route than 90 so it should have a different shield. Same way that 89A is a different route than 89. It'd be particularly bad to see "94" on an Interstate shield for I-94 BUS, which is not even a freeway.


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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby txemt » Sat May 03, 2014 1:54 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
CBenson wrote:I don't like "BUS." Its a word.
...
I prefer "ALT" ...

I don't think we should not use something as an abbreviation just because it is a word. "Alt" is also a word, not only an abbreviation.


Texas has a US-90 Business as well as a US-90 Alt. They are two totally separate roads. =\
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sat May 03, 2014 6:07 pm

txemt wrote:Texas has a US-90 Business as well as a US-90 Alt. They are two totally separate roads. =\

That's fine and works for me. But is there a US-90 Alternate and a US-90 Alt which are totally different?
sketch wrote:The way shield rules are apparently written means they're flexible for numbers but not letters, so we'd have to define not only US-n, US-nn, US-nnn but also US-nnA, US-nnE, US-nnW... for US highways.

It may be exception-only based, but Waze does "support" letter suffixes in shields. IMO, if there's no space, it's part of the main shield numbering. If it's one of a limited number of abbreviation strings with space after a route/interstate designation, then that should be a different shield with the appropriate signage.

I still think that it is going to be too much for Waze to take on individual state shielding for the near future. Maybe in a year or two...
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby txemt » Sat May 03, 2014 7:55 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
txemt wrote:Texas has a US-90 Business as well as a US-90 Alt. They are two totally separate roads. =\

That's fine and works for me. But is there a US-90 Alternate and a US-90 Alt which are totally different?


US-90 Alt connects Seguin, Texas with the east side of Houston, roughly 250 miles or so. It is south of I-10 while US-90 criss crosses 10. To my knowledge, there isn't a 90-Alt Alternate, or 90-Alt Business. I also cannot think of any US-90 Alternates or Businesses (unless there's one way out in West Texas).
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sat May 03, 2014 8:09 pm

txemt wrote:I also cannot think of any US-90 Alternates or Businesses (unless there's one way out in West Texas).

I thought I-35E in Texas properly showed the 35E in the shield. I swear it used to...

Anyway, in my neck o the woods, there are are examples of several:
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby sketch » Sat May 03, 2014 8:11 pm

35E may have been added manually.


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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby txemt » Sat May 03, 2014 8:59 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I thought I-35E in Texas properly showed the 35E in the shield. I swear it used to...


It did. I-35W also showed. Are they not shield anymore?
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sat May 03, 2014 9:23 pm

txemt wrote:It did. I-35W also showed. Are they not shield anymore?

I checked livemap and didn't see it, though maybe I was looking in the right place. In contrast, I can see 99E and 99W for state routes in Oregon in livemap.
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Re: Road names/USA :: Additions, upcoming changes

Postby txemt » Sat May 03, 2014 9:24 pm

I checked in the app and the E and W are gone.
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