Fredo-p wrote:

PesachZ wrote:I added some more images to the chat addon script section

Very nice. What does the red screen mean?

Chat top pannel (if open) or chat button (if closed) change color to dark red (editable in settings) if someone type a message containing a word in a custom list (see tool tip text) in settings (case unsensitive). Returns back to original color when you send a message, or close chat window.

DwarfLord wrote:

vectorspace wrote:

DwarfLord wrote:I would suggest using the word "avatar" instead of "icon" when referring to the hard-hat image

I agree. If nobody objects, I suggest DwarfLord make this change.

Done.

I have a bit of confusion perhaps someone can clear up regarding visibility and invisibility. One has two controls for these. Enabling the "Live Users" layer controls whether you see avatars, and enabling "visible" controls whether anyone sees you. Questions:

• Has it been confirmed that an "invisible" setting really does render one completely invisible? No entry in the participating list, and no avatar displayed regardless of other editors' Live Users setting? (I have a recollection that in the early days this was not strictly true but doubtless there have been improvements.) If so, the "stalking" advisory would not apply would it? From a management perspective sometimes you're curious what someone is working on, especially if it's in an area you have worked yourself, but you don't want to alarm them unnecessarily. Perhaps that is rude even if one is invisible, and once I've taken a look at what's going on, it would feel odd to hang around anyway. But the WME appears to allow it. Strange situation.
• In my experience the "Live Users" layer defaults to off. Seemingly every time. I am really not sure why WME has the layer at all. Why wouldn't someone want to see that other editors who are voluntarily visible are working in their area? It reminds me of Zaphod Beeblebrox's "panic-sensitive sunglasses" that go opaque just before you see something that might alarm you. But given that we have the layer, why does it default (apparently, at least in my experience) to off? It makes it that much harder to get other editors' attention. I forget to enable it all the time myself.

That latter point may be better off placed in the WME requests area but if Live Users really does default to off every time that's worth putting in the wiki. Unless it's there and I missed it...

DwarfLord wrote:

kentsmith9 wrote:

DwarfLord wrote:That latter point may be better off placed in the WME requests area but if Live Users really does default to off every time that's worth putting in the wiki. Unless it's there and I missed it...

Not sure I follow what you mean. At what point do you believe it is disabled by default? How do you get to that point?

When I am on WME and I select a permalink or refresh, if I had "live users" layer on, it stays on for me.

Looks like PesachZ has the answer for me. I must be turning it off all the time when loading permalinks. Thanks PesachZ!

Perhaps over in the WME feature requests area I'll suggest that the Live Users layer be forced perpetually on. If an one's avatar really is always visible regardless of one's "invisibility" setting, it is puzzling why anyone would want to be seen without seeing. It's not like there are so many other editors they would clutter the screen

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=35.59604&lon=-108.61566&env=usa&layers=1189

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat=35.59604&lon=-108.61566&env=usa

ply8808 wrote:

Fredo-p wrote:

DwarfLord wrote:
It's not like there are so many other editors they would clutter the screen

Funny you would mention that. There is a thread in the forums about someone who took a screenshot of a crap ton of editors in one location. I swear it was around 15-20.

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Here is a thread with that image:
viewtopic.php?f=262&t=79653

Fredo-p wrote:

DwarfLord wrote:
It's not like there are so many other editors they would clutter the screen

Funny you would mention that. There is a thread in the forums about someone who took a screenshot of a crap ton of editors in one location. I swear it was around 15-20.

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CBenson wrote:Should we mention somewhere that creating a permalink functions as a browser refresh and thus erases all messages?

Refresh or reload screen[edit]
Reloading the browser page resets your WME chat window and erases the chat history, you may also miss messages sent while WME is reloading in your browser.
Map refresh icon.png
To refresh your screen, to see recent edits, reload the roads, sattelite images, etc; look in the WME main menu upper left for the small cycle button. Click on this to refresh your screen without reloading the page, or erasing the history of WME Chat.
When you click on the permalink icon in the bottom right, it creates a permalink (containing your current map location, segments highlighted, URs or MPs opened, and layers visible), and then loads that page. This will reload your browser window erasing WME chat history as mentioned above. This may useful as indicated below.

vectorspace wrote:

CBenson wrote:Should we mention somewhere that creating a permalink functions as a browser refresh and thus erases all messages?

Seems like a good idea to me.

I added it to the Troubleshooting section:

I lost my chat history. Why?[edit]
Chat history in the current WME Chat is erased each time you reload your browser window, including when you create a Permalink. Consider only refreshing your screen from the main menu of the editor as noted elsewhere in this article.

I also made some other minor additions.

vectorspace wrote:

PesachZ wrote:... I'm not sure you notice I also incorporated this into a new section
#Refresh or reload

Yes... I did notice that. I am not worried about duplication in the article as it help people find what they need. If what I entered is too much duplication, it's ok to remove it.

kentsmith9 wrote:

vectorspace wrote:I can see your point, but it is also a style difference, trading a more familiar style of writing to something more dry and technical. Your style might also translate better to other languages. I get the issue about linking and easier to scan in the index. I really don't care which way it goes as long as it is consistent, so change it as needed as far as I am concerned. I only have a few caveats...

-- Make sure the content of the body doesn't have to change given change to the title.

-- I don't think "Duplicated chat responses" quite captures the issue. It is not really responses but the own user's entry. Perhaps there are different words. Even "Duplicated chat messages" makes more sense to me.

I think I understand point one, so after I make the change check what I did to be sure.

I understand your second point. I could live with "Duplicated chat messages".

qwaletee wrote:One other note. The add-on info in https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Waze_Map_Editor/Chat should really be shared with the add-ons wiki page via templating.

PesachZ wrote:

qwaletee wrote:One other note. The add-on info in https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Waze_Map_Editor/Chat should really be shared with the add-ons wiki page via templating.

You should also add the screen share /chat program we used a while ago (no install required is a pro.

EDIT I believe the add-on is shared with the community page via transclusion. IT IS NOT. I will fix it

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qwaletee wrote:One other note. The add-on info in https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Waze_Map_Editor/Chat should really be shared with the add-ons wiki page via templating.