[Updated] House Numbers in WME

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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:49 pm

I mean, "actively working on" can mean different things, I suppose. I don't see any harm in removing house numbers that will cause problems for the foreseeable future, especially where using the Google result will lead to accurate navigation. Maybe it's not perfectly elegant, but it works now, and for my money I would prefer Waze work on things that make a big difference, like road closures.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Sat May 03, 2014 2:33 am

mdavidsonjr wrote:How about when you add new house numbers, does it use this new information for the navigation and override the external sources.

Yes (if the system is working as intended). Waze house numbers are used when manually added or edited in the Waze editor.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Fri May 02, 2014 1:31 am

The endpoint can't be moved to another street by anyone.

I would just delete your house number from Waze and let Google take care of it.


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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Thu May 01, 2014 8:08 pm

krikketdoug wrote:So when I do a search for "Sushi House", what point is Waze going to route me to, if there is a conflict between the street address it finds and the landmark. (Shouldn't happen, but I'm thinking about resolving future problems.)

The Place. House numbers are only used if you search for an address (and if it is matched with a Google address).

Say you add a Place named Sushi House with the address 3333 Jefferson Hwy, and also a 3333 house number point on Jefferson Hwy. Searching and routing to Sushi House will take you to the Place. Searching and routing to 3333 Jefferson Hwy will take you to the house number stop point (if the Google-Waze match works properly).

They don't work with each other. So if you have only added the 3333 house number, searching for Sushi House will take you to the Google/Foursquare/whatever point for Sushi House, while searching for 3333 Jefferson Hwy will take you to the Waze address point (assuming it works properly). On the other hand, if you have only added the Place for Sushi House with the 3333 Jefferson Hwy address — but not a 3333 house number — and search for Sushi House, you will get the Place in the Waze tab; but if you search for 3333 Jefferson Hwy, you'll get the Google address marker location.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:17 pm

jdeyoung wrote:As I indicated, that leaves us at a bit of an impasse. I've lived in/around Chicago all of my life, and can look at addresses on a street and know they've all been mass-imported (like little toy soldiers all lined up) and placed too close to the alley. I'm not suggesting waze itself have this knowledge and do so automatically nor does it make sense to wait for each and every resident along the street to report a UR that their address is incorrectly too close to the alley. Should we wait for the hundreds of thousands of these to be reported? A better approach to solving these ad-hoc after a user reports a wrong location for the umpteenth time would be to solve these for entire streets at a time with a proper tool. It was a massive effort to mobilize editors in the area to attack the problem of alleys created from basemap as streets. Now multiply that by 40-50 addresses per block of all the residential streets and you get an idea of the amount of effort needed.

I don't think we have to be an an impasse, though, necessarily.

A single process that would make some users' lives a lot easier but that would also mess things up really badly for other users simply cannot be employed.

I'm not against a tool that would allow an editor, upon verifying that the house numbers on a particular street are correct, to confirm a large series of address points with one click. That would make your lives a lot easier without confirming a bunch of bad imported data.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby sketch » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:49 am

The idea is that we'll only actually edit or add house numbers if we know them to be correct. So a user-added or user-confirmed Waze house number is generally the most trustworthy point of information we have.

For now we can "solve" it, more or less, by telling editors not to add house numbers for business with parking lot roads or for houses with shared driveways.

Automating the confirmation of Waze house numbers, or allowing the use of non-confirmed imported house numbers, will cause enormous problems not only because it will disallow us from making that assessment but also because some of the house number data imported into Waze is truly, truly awful.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby qwaletee » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:40 pm

Google is very much still in the picture, entering a search that gets you a Waze result is still hit or miss. Last I heard the autosearch still relies entirely on Google, though a couple of earlier comments lead me to believe that at least some editors think otherwise.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby qwaletee » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:12 pm

Seems reasonable. Do we need more guidance about the use of private roads?
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby qwaletee » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:56 pm

tonestertm wrote:...
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  • Previous results come next ... with a light blue "clock" icon on the left.
  • The immediately following result in autofills display a magnifying glass on the left and will take you directly to the full search results for those words without having to scroll to the bottom. Note that there may be multiple suggestions, depending on the entry.
  • New results follow, and use a "map pin" icon.
Tapping the diagonally upward pointing arrow at the right will populate the autofill search box with the result words shown in that given box without going to the full result page.
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Re: [Updated] House Numbers in WME

Postby pinpusher » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:25 pm

First, Waze knows the name of the street (alley) that the imported address points are attached to or it would not send us to "alley". It also knows the street type.
Second, Waze knows the address' real street and the slightest push causes the stop point to attach to the correct street. Yes, there are exceptions like when the entrance is on the side street.
Therefore Waze has all the information it needs to fix the problem. If street name="alley" then stop point goes to real street. This would be better more than 99% of the time.

Maybe Waze 4.0 will address this issue.
I am not waiting, I have corrected what I could on all of Chicago's East streets north of 54th Street, so far. PM me if you want to help.
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