[Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby arturoae » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:04 pm

Sonthe thing is: leave the u arrows ON. Maybe some day we will use them? (Waze routing and tts)?? But we still don't?? Or I'm understanding wrong?


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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby driving79 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:16 pm

voludu2 - I think it needs something about not making it a priority to add these at this time. Also, not so sure about the last sentence....but trying to think of a way to make it a bit more clear. Yes, I realize this is not helpful. :)
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby voludu2 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:26 pm

Perhaps replacing the first paragraph and leaving the second alone:
As of November 2014, it is OK to allow the U-arrow where appropriate. Waze will not route the U-arrow. Therefore, whether u-arrows are enabled or not should make no difference to routing at this time. At some time in the future, when Waze is capable of routing the u-arrow, these will become useful to wazers. This advice replaces the advice from June 2014 -- at that time, waze used the u-arrow in routing, but did not communicate this to the driver.

Fortunately, the lack of u-arrow support can be mitigated with a workaround...


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Edited 19 Nov 2014 -- use "u-arrow" instead of "u-turn" for clarity; make clear this is a change from the June 2014 policy
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby voludu2 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:15 pm

that's a pretty clear response. We should definitely update the wiki.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby sketch » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:54 pm

voludu2 wrote:I thought the current "disable all u-turns" policy was in response to this:
DwarfLord wrote:There is the issue discussed in this thread where Waze will provide a route that requires a U-turn but will not give any instructions to do so, which is mind-bogglingly confusing to the driver.


Therefore the decision to disable u-turns everywhere to prevent this happening, and to split roads where U-turns are absolutely necessary -- in effect, the u-turn instructions problem has led to more split roads.

U turns should not be seen at all in routes. If it happens, staff wants to know. Staff wishes, last I heard, are that we leave U turns enabled as they should be, and to report them to staff if they are used despite the massive penalty that's supposed to make them not be given.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby driving79 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:50 pm

I haven't seen either problem in a long time now, and I thought it was fixed? Will see if we can get confirmation.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby HandofMadness » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Unless what voludu2 mentions has been fixed, I think the current rule should still stand.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby voludu2 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:46 pm

I thought the current "disable all u-turns" policy was in response to this:
DwarfLord wrote:There is the issue discussed in this thread where Waze will provide a route that requires a U-turn but will not give any instructions to do so, which is mind-bogglingly confusing to the driver.


Therefore the decision to disable u-turns everywhere to prevent this happening, and to split roads where U-turns are absolutely necessary -- in effect, the u-turn instructions problem has led to more split roads.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby driving79 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:38 pm

Hi guys, can we update the wiki? Editors are going around disabling valid uturns. From what I understand, this is ok to have them there if valid. They are not harming anything, but once u-turns ever goes live, they will be there ready. It's not something we should be going actively out and pursuing (i.e. not high priority at this time). Mainly this area here where you shouldn't have them at all, no ifs, ands, or buts needs to be updated/removed:

To prevent the confusion this could cause among drivers, do not enable the U-turn restriction under any circumstances whatsoever. Keep all U-turn restrictions red everywhere, even in cases where local law or signage permit U-turns, and even if drivers are complaining that U-turns should be enabled.
https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Map_Editing_ ... de#U-Turns
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby sketch » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:40 pm

I agree, and to be honest, I don't know why we don't have those arrow overlays every other GPS provider seems to have. They'd make turns etc. a lot easier to see.
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