[Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:19 pm

ottonomy wrote:Are you referring to occurrences of dead-end U-turns being used in routing as turn-arounds, or the separate issue we've been discussing here about U-turns on two-way segments displaying misleading prompts (for the next turn, rather than for the U)?

Based on a PM with Noam, they are looking for more of the second one, but if anyone has any of the first one they can use that as well.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby redviper26 » Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:21 am

Both :)
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby kentsmith9 » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:57 am

Today this segment showed a U-Turn on my client app when I was coming from the SW on that road. It was trying to get me to turn around. Funny thing is it could have simply turned left at the intersection, but at the moment it happened, I had taken the wrong turn (wasn't paying attention) and it automatically recalculated the route trying to get me back to the road to the SW. The map shows no U-Turn is even possible there. I can send a screenshot of my client if required.

Like the prior entries the route comes to a point on the screen, but the next turn indicated was the turn I would have taken "after" the U-Turn would be executed.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:25 am

There is a UR here for the old route to a enabled U-turn at the end of a dead end road to reverse direction problem.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby Machete808 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:34 pm

I will also look for these examples, though it's less common in my area.

But here's my question (though it may be better placed in the "feature request" category): Wouldn't it help if when Waze routes through a U-turn, that the nav trace be altered so that the actual "U" is visible? So you'd end up with the purple line doubling around at the turn and displaying as two lines next to each other, with the "U-turn at X St" announced via TTS and in the top navigation menu bar?

It would be unfortunate to disallow all those U-turns currently (and accurately) enabled.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby sketch » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:40 pm

I agree, and to be honest, I don't know why we don't have those arrow overlays every other GPS provider seems to have. They'd make turns etc. a lot easier to see.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby driving79 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:38 pm

Hi guys, can we update the wiki? Editors are going around disabling valid uturns. From what I understand, this is ok to have them there if valid. They are not harming anything, but once u-turns ever goes live, they will be there ready. It's not something we should be going actively out and pursuing (i.e. not high priority at this time). Mainly this area here where you shouldn't have them at all, no ifs, ands, or buts needs to be updated/removed:

To prevent the confusion this could cause among drivers, do not enable the U-turn restriction under any circumstances whatsoever. Keep all U-turn restrictions red everywhere, even in cases where local law or signage permit U-turns, and even if drivers are complaining that U-turns should be enabled.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby voludu2 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:46 pm

I thought the current "disable all u-turns" policy was in response to this:
DwarfLord wrote:There is the issue discussed in this thread where Waze will provide a route that requires a U-turn but will not give any instructions to do so, which is mind-bogglingly confusing to the driver.


Therefore the decision to disable u-turns everywhere to prevent this happening, and to split roads where U-turns are absolutely necessary -- in effect, the u-turn instructions problem has led to more split roads.

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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby HandofMadness » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Unless what voludu2 mentions has been fixed, I think the current rule should still stand.
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Re: [Clarify/Update Page] U-turn policy?

Postby driving79 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:50 pm

I haven't seen either problem in a long time now, and I thought it was fixed? Will see if we can get confirmation.
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