Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

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Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby wroadd » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:54 pm

Dear Austrian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovak, Serbian Wazers,

We want to organize a regional meetup in Bratislava, Slovakia (maybe this is the "most easiest to reach" city for these countries) in the second half year for the TopWazers in this region.
We want to do some workshop about the future features of waze, the "must to repair/develop" functions and, of course, we want to know each other much more.

Update

Date: December 1, 2012. 11:00 - 17:00 GMT+01:00
Location: Digitale, Letná Residence, Hálkova 1/A, Bratislava, Slovakia (Google Maps)
Waze navigation links: (Launch from your phone) Parking Lot (free) | Street parking (free) * | Entrance
* In case you will use the Street parking, please double-check you are not blocking any garage / house gate!
Meetup Agenda: PDF

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Free WiFi
Network name: Waze Meetup Hotspot
Password: metamorphosis

Attendees

FINAL LIST OF PARTICIPANTS

WAZE STAFF (4):
[IL] Ori CONFIRMED
[IL] Ehud (Co-Founder, CTO) CONFIRMED
[IL] Amir (Co-Founder, VP R&D) CONFIRMED
[IL] Chen (Head of Community & Support team) CONFIRMED

HUNGARY (7):
[HU] wroadd CONFIRMED
[HU] ZseZo CONFIRMED
[HU] Kaszast CONFIRMED
[HU] Mochrul CONFIRMED
[HU] Szata76 CONFIRMED
[HU] vtibi CONFIRMED
[HU] Botika CONFIRMED

CZECH REPUBLIC (3):
[CZ] Zirland CONFIRMED
[CZ] Fotrik CONFIRMED
[CZ] Greby CONFIRMED

SLOVAKIA (12):
[SK] guri211 CONFIRMED
[SK] porubcan CONFIRMED
[SK] M-A-L CONFIRMED
[SK] Shalafi CONFIRMED
[SK] Suik CONFIRMED
[SK] foxitrot CONFIRMED
[SK] Glipko CONFIRMED
[SK] grafik CONFIRMED
[SK] (Jozef Drahovsky) CONFIRMED
[SK] MagicOfLA CONFIRMED
[SK] duky5 CONFIRMED
[SK] SonkaW (Assistant) CONFIRMED

AUSTRIA:
[AT] GPSRitter CONFIRMED

SERBIA:
[SR] dragstor CONFIRMED AGAIN

NORWAY:
[NO] Pepsodent CONFIRMED

ROMANIA:
[RO] Spookyx CONFIRMED

Agenda (download agenda here)

Official start 11:00

Introduction of regions & attendees
One wazer from each country introduces attendees & status of Waze in his country (i.e. Mapping status, ETA accuracy, coverage, etc).

Infrastructure changes (waze HQ)
What exactly has changed? Why is routing expected to be better? Does it have any influence on better ETA accuracy? Regular map updates - how often? Is the speed of Map Editor also positively affected?

POI & Address search (guri211)
How should it work? How to make POI search easy and intuitive for users? Using aliases and partial strings "Hilton" vs. "Hotel Hilton". House numbers are back, but map editors don't like the implementation. Idea of new POI & Address search (v1 - simple, v2 - advanced).

How is ETA calculated? (waze HQ)
How are the traffic jams taken into this count? How many wazers do we need to create traffic jam on a street / minor hwy / major hwy / freeway? Could a single baby wazer create a standstill? Is the event information severity (i.e. Minor vs. Major Accident) and number of likes or comments also important? Is the ETA for each turn different? Is the color-coded displayed speed different from ETA speed on the same segment(s)?

Building up CE Waze Community (wroadd)
How to build our community together?

Hazard Reporting
Offline reporting - remember report when temporarily offline and send a few seconds / minutes later. Reporting Closures. Option to report Ice on road. Consider transforming the speedcam report into an Update Request.

Map Protection
Quality control for map editing

Other Issues
ETA +1 min. Unicode characters problem when loading favorites from server. Do not allow jumping to lat=0,lon=0 position - show previous position instead. ETA historical data do not respect day of week

Feature Ideas
Speed Limits. Lane Guidance (incl. hazards). Vehicle types (incl. type-specific turn restrictions). Navigation signs & Traffic signs. Expected time to green light. Augmented reality. TopWazers version w/map debug information. Add option to manually reorder favorites. List of (own) URs in Editor, even if closed recently. Access to bug tracking (ticketing) system for betatesters (at least read-only).

Waze stickers 17:00
Public stickers giveaway
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Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:20 pm

Enjoy the meeting!

Curious: I notice the 'manual reorder of favorites' on the agenda. This is only missing in android, which I do find especially odd. What about ios made it so much easier that its been in that version for a long time.
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Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby Pepsodont » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:20 am

I was forced to work overtime all night, so I won't make it.. :-(
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby fotrik » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:02 pm

Comments to few points in minutes.

- The zoom behavior when auto-zoom disabled is now even worse with new 3.5.3. Tried to summarize all situations where the manual zoom is not reverted back and promised by Perlin in beta forum that it will be fixed in one of the future versions.
- Recommended to convert the voice prompts to mono (if not done yet) to reduce the necessary downloads when Waze client updated. Done for CZ and download size reduced from approx. 2.0 to 1.2 MB.

You forgot to mention:
- Asked to look at the state of mapping the gas stations in CZ to turn on the gas prices here. - Done and prices are enabled since Christmas. (Thanks!!!)
- Asked not only for full list of own URs even when closed recently but asked also for list of all URs for AM in his managed area.

guri211: Added
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby guri211 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:43 pm

Meetup Minutes (finally!)

The first part (presentation from Waze HQ) is confidential. Presentations was about:
- Chen: World & CE stats
Interesting note - Android vs iPhone. Android: Lower average speed, use Waze less. iPhone: Use Waze more minutes a day, higher average speed. Chen's note: "Maybe because of battery life". Zirland: "You mean they're in a hurry for a charger?" :D
- Ori: Feature plans for Map Editor
- How is ETA calculated? Amir & Chen: "We wish we knew it" :D Ehud explain

2nd part: PROBLEMS & FEATURE IDEAS discussion:

POI & ADDRESS SEARCH
POI & Address search is something that definitely needs to be improved (guri211).
Not working:
- letters in house number not accepted (i.e. Halkova 1/A, Bratislava)
- search for tesco sygic vs. waze
- make relation between POI and a parking lot to make sure you are directed to the right segment (and not some supply service road)
- guri211 is presenting ideas how should it work: PDF

HOW TO COOPERATE TO GAIN MORE USERS
- Wroadd presents status in Hungary
- Best communication practise
- Presentation available: PDF

MAP EDITING
- Asked to look at the state of mapping the gas stations in CZ to turn on the gas prices here. - fotrik: Done and prices are enabled since Christmas. (Thanks!!!)
- Asked not only for full list of own URs even when closed recently but asked also for list of all URs for AM in his managed area.

HAZARD REPORTING
- Offline reporting - remember report when temporarily offline and send a few seconds / minutes later (in case there is temporarily no network coverage, or during a phone call in 2G GSM network)
- Report Closures
- Option to report Ice on road
- Consider transforming the speedcam report into an Update Request. (Probably in the whole Europe, the Police Traps are reported as Speedcams because of different terminology)
- Option to report hazard in "both directions"
- "Hazard ahead" voice prompts - 500 meters is too early in the city, but too late on the highway. Use time prediction instead of distance
- Zirland and other wazers are asking to fix issues first, and then implement new features. Waze HQ: "We cannot release new version without a core new feature"
- Accident: not possible to click "not there"

OTHER ISSUES
- ETA +1 min. guri211: "Even if ETA is 17:59:01, it will show you 18:00" HQ: "Isn't it fine to arrive 1 minute earlier than ETA?" Champs: "No" HQ: "OK, will check it"
- Unicode characters when loading favorites / driving to - fixed now
- Do not allow jumping to lat=0,lon=0 position - show previous position instead. Ehud: "OK"
- ETA historical data do not respect day of week. HQ: "already working on it" guri211: Looks like fixed now (2013-01-20)
- Wroadd: UR in map - misplaced pin - HQ: "being solved by R&D"
- Fotrik: 2d, no zoom, doesn't revert to selected zoom lvl (after hazard pin,etc.) HQ: "OK, will check it"
- WiFi-> 3G on Android - sometimes doesn't reconnect. Looks like a rare issue (only 1 or 2 guests reported it)
- Always downloading voice prompts after app upgrade - need to clean everything to be sure that everything will work correctly, so it is needed to re-download them
- Turn rest. not "updated by" - have to have perm. to both segments
- Drive summary window transparent (or at least make the first turn visible)
- Extreme speeds traffic jams. Ehud: "Please send it to me" guri211: "OK, sending 1 example right now - speed limit is 50km/h, traffic jam speed is 108 km/h"

FEATURE IDEAS
- Speed limits
- Lane Guidance (incl. hazards)
- Vehicle types (incl. type-specific turn restrictions)
- Navigation signs & Traffic signs
- TopWazers version w/map debug information
- Add option to manually reorder favorites (Android)
- List of (own) URs in Editor, even if closed recently
- Access to bug tracking (ticketing) system for betatesters (at least read-only)
- IMPORTANT: What kind of hazard is ahead?
- Time vs. Distance of Hazard ahead
- More destination alternatives in "Driving to...?". POI icons in map.
- Glipko: Show railroads in client map
- Have an option to opt-out from automatic traffic reporting (BUS drivers, bikers, etc)
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby ciamagno » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:26 am

Hi guys,

Do you have the minutes for that meeting?

Cheers
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby GPSRitter » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:37 am

oh in that case ... i have to mention that this, this, this, this and this as well as this, this, and maybe this too could be imroved ;)

Just kidding :)

Just a few very minor things:
A bigger projection, even the room was quite narrow and compact, some slides were a bit hard to read.
A slightly bigger room, not to occupy more people but to have more space to move around and not to block people sights.
Food was enough I believe, even for me as a Veggie ;)

Cheers,
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby guri211 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:51 am

Thank you very much!

We have received a lot of compliments, what is absolutelly great. But what I'd like to know now:

Do you have any meetup improvement ideas? Was there enough food, or you prefer a lunch break in a restaurant next time? People who have attended other meetups (Budapest, Paris, or even Palo Alto) - was there something that you were missing at our meetup in Bratislava? Do you have any other idea how to make our next meetup better? Are you able to help me with something specific?

I appreciate "everything was perfect" comments, but please try to focus on improvement ideas now :)
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby Unholy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:53 am

Hi Folks,

Thank you all for finding the time and doing the effort of coming to the meeting.
I wanted to tell you that everybody here, at Waze HQ, were very curious to hear about the meeting and wanted to hear anything we had to tell about it.

Special thanks to guri211 who did a wonderful job of arranging this meetup perfectly - You ROCK!

It was a pleasure meeting you all, and the information you shared with us will be used to make Waze way better.

See you soon!

Thanks again,

Ori
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Re: Regional meetup for TopWazers of CE & EE - Dec 1, 2012

Postby GPSRitter » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:10 pm

Also a big thank you from me and the Austrian Community for that.
You gave us good hints on what to improve and your feedback is well appreciated.
I hope to stay in touch with you especiall to coordinate border areas.

Also great thanks to the waze staff that came to Bratislava and gave us the big "Ahaaaa" Experience on some odd behaviours :D Hope to see you next time in Israel.
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