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Postby fvwazing » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:08 pm

Barneymiller wrote:I left the word respect out of my comment


Ah, and I thought you were asking for another Helloween-theme!
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Postby fvwazing » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:59 pm

"Not soon" then?. Remember, "soon" can mean "not even in four years". And yes, in the hype of the google adventure many things were promised, even bicycles. But do not hold your breath... we will be lucky if trucks, cabs and more are actually supported before this thread is one year old.

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Aw sh*t, this thread IS one year old.
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Postby fvwazing » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:01 am

Waze is not for bicycling, and it will never be for bicycling. Didn't you read one bit of the comments in this thread?
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Postby ChrisSeiler » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:48 pm

I agree wirh fbwazing's idea of th emergency vehicles.
I also would love to have a bike and train mode as well as a ferry street type
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Postby fvwazing » Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:59 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:For example, bicycles. We know people use Waze on bicycles, so if we have a bicycle option for them to pick, I bet they are more likely to do so. Especially if it makes their icon into a bicycle ;)

They don't need to know the details that it behaves the same as if they picked "other" and we and Waze don't need to do anything beyond setting up the "other" option.

And if sometime in the future we actually do support bicycles in a more complex manner, then the backend can change and the client already is set to bicycle.


Yeah, give them an option "bicycle" and an icon. Even if this doesn't do a thing, in every town you will have 2 or 3 fanatic cyclists that will take that as an encouragement to map cycleroads. These 2 or 3 are the only customers waze will win by this - and probably the last customers, too.

I have often scolded Amsterdam cyclists for screwing up directions. I seriously thought that I would find hordes of them - hey, Amsterdam is the bicycle capital of the world. Careful study of the damage and patterns over the last weeks shows that all the damage by cycles in Amsterdam comes from a handful. I estimate now that far less than 5% of rides are bicycles. That is enough to screw up the map every couple of weeks and that is about half of the gain Waze can get from supporting cyclists in Amsterdam.

Google now supports bicycles. I looked at their map in my hood, and it is far from correct for cycles. It would take about twice as much change to do it right. All that for the benefit of a handful.... do the math.

Trucks and cabs, on the other hand, only need a handful of changes to existing roads (mostly) to make them completely happy. They spend all their working hours in traffic, adding benefit for Waze.
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Postby fvwazing » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:50 pm

OldGnome wrote:
fvwazing wrote:It may be different in the states - but DUTCH cyclists are notorious!

All the more reason to know where they are. ;) :lol:


Dude, they are in front/left/right & on top of you.

An american astonished about dutch cyclists: http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterdam_bicycles/

"This particular 3-way corner is INCREDIBLY busy with bicycles, cars, and pedestrians, and the traffic pattern is completely random. There don't seem to be any clearly defined rules of engagement -> from all directions bicycles and cars just whiz into the intersection and deal with whatever happens the best they can."
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Postby top_gun_de » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:33 pm

Time-of-Day-Restrictions. There is at least one one-way in Hamburg which changes its direction over the day, and there are a couple of streets which are forbidden during a part of the day.

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Postby fvwazing » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:15 pm

It may be different in the states - but DUTCH cyclists are notorious!
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Postby fvwazing » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:32 pm

OldGnome wrote:
fvwazing wrote:Please, do NOT add cyclists and pedestrians to the set. Any new vehicles should be able to drive (a subset of) the car-network.

How exactly are bicycles different in this discussion from long-haul trucks? Restrictions on where they can drive, potential impact to the average speed on the chosen roadway, etc. I would consider it an advantage while driving to know that both are on my route.


Bicycles would need so many extra connections, they would double the volume of the map where I live. All that trouble - to plan a trafficfree route for cyclists. They don't get stuck in traffic, anyway. Before they do get stuck in traffic they cut a corner over a boardwalk. Even if you managed to present them with a perfect route they would ignore it. (I know because I am a parttime cyclist myself). Not worth the trouble. Do not bother with bicycles until - well, until the last street has housenumbers (another way to say never).

Trucks would need only a handful of changes to existing roads to make them perfectly happy.
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Postby yrrabsille » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:53 pm

Long-haul trucks stay with the flow of traffic
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