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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby Riamus » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:22 am

It wasn't that post by them. I'll look for it. It's the same post that mentioned adding speed limits. And yes, I know it's not in beta and will likely be a long way down the road. Just saying that they said it was at least planned at some point.

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Ok, it took a little work, but I found it. Here is the post from shirlig that comments on adding walking and biking to Waze. See list item #3. Now, this is obviously just a goal and may or may not ever be fully added. It's too soon to know, but it is at least on the table. As far as making it less work to add all of the walking and biking areas, I think Waze should consider adding checkboxes to street segments allowing you to mark a check if a sidewalk is present as well as mark a check if bicycles are allowed. That would save having to add a ton of sidewalks and bike lanes to the map that follow the roads. In short, it would save a LOT of work. Then, all that is left is adding paths that do not follow roads. Just a thought. And I think we'll find that there are a lot of walking and biking enthusiasts who would put in the time to get their trails mapped in Waze even if they have no interest in mapping roads. And in some countries or some areas of countries, you may even find more editors for biking/walking than for driving. And though it's a long way down the road, I'd also suggest that Waze separate walking/biking trails from the road layer so that editors can hide roads and still see the trails or hide trails and still see the roads. It will make it far easier to edit without needing to see everything at once.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby Riamus » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:53 pm

fvwazing wrote:Waze is not for bicycling, and it will never be for bicycling. Didn't you read one bit of the comments in this thread?


Don't say never. Waze has specifically said that they are considering adding bicycle and walking options in the future. It's true that they may change their mind and it could end up never happening, but they did say that. If they said it, then it is at least on the table for consideration. And by adding vehicle types to Waze, it's actually very easy from that point to make it so Waze can be used for bicycling and walking without it affecting traffic speed data. In fact, it would be a good thing for that very reason. Waze could consider adding all of those walkways and paths, but that isn't necessarily a requirement. They could just put in a bicycle or pedestrian vehicle type that does not affect speed data and leave it at that. It wouldn't even require much coding beyond what is done for adding other vehicle types. The coding that would be needed would be if they want to map all walking/biking paths, but as I said, that isn't even really necessary unless they wanted to do so.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby Riamus » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:35 pm

fvwazing wrote:"Not soon" then?. Remember, "soon" can mean "not even in four years". And yes, in the hype of the google adventure many things were promised, even bicycles. But do not hold your breath... we will be lucky if trucks, cabs and more are actually supported before this thread is one year old.

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Aw sh*t, this thread IS one year old.


Right. It isn't likely to be anytime soon. I was just pointing out that we don't know what they are going to decide to do and to say it will never happen is a good way to be wrong. :)
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby RooikatTV_YouTube » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Country : South Africa
Types: Truck 18 Wheeler

Some user said why do Waze have to care about the input of truck drivers, because they are always on the road. Well, I'm a truck driver, driving mostly only local (I'm home every night) and sometimes I drive long distance (where I'm obviously not home). Waze is a wonderful app, and can help reduce the truck related accidents. I just don't understand why cars hate trucks. When you have Waze to help the cars warn about slow trucks, and Waze help trucks to find routes that will be easier for them, and avoid to unnecessarily slow down speedy traffic. Face it, cars need trucks. We carry the food the cars need. It is faster in the shops by truck, than by train. Please, bear with trucks, and help with ideas to make Waze work for us all :-)

In SA we have a compulsory STOP for the truck over 5 metric ton Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM). Before that stop sign is a dedicated lane for the struck. Usually a stead bed is at that stop, for in case the truck fails to stop. It would be great to have a COMPULSORY STOP & STEAD BED notification in TRUCK MODE.

Some WEIGH BRIDGE is 24 hours open and require trucks to always enter the primary weigh bridge, to determine if the truck needs to be pulled over for an official weight. Thus, it would be nice if Waze can tell the driver to keep onto the bridge lane.

While in truck mode, Waze build statistics for trucks, the same as with cars, with the exception, that Waze can warn speeding traffic of a slow vehicle ahead, instead of the truck case a traffic jam in Waze. Waze can navigate trucks on routes with less hills. A long drive time on a segment can be translated as lots of hills. Thus, it may be possible to find a 10 km detour, which should be faster than the slow short route with steep hills.

When a truck stops on a long segment, Waze should ask the driver if it's a place to stop and rest. If yes, then mark a 50 meter radius. Over time, when a driver gets tired, then he can ask Waze where the nearest stop spot is. As a driver, at night, I often overshoot a place to pull over, and I can not just stop a 56 ton vehicle in 30 meter, then reverse ... I want Waze to add that as an intermediate stop. It should help reduce drivers falling asleep.

While on the truck topic. Many companies have large fleets. It would be great if the drivers can link to each other and see where each other are, either to chat, or to request assistance from his colleagues, because people just don't offer assistance anymore to strangers, due to hi-jacking.

TRUCK MODE: Compulsory stop / stead bed notification / resting spots / colleague live in client.

SOLUTION: the same as with timed turn restrictions, click clock on green arrow, the same could be done with vehicle restrictions.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby RooikatTV_YouTube » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:24 am

krikketdoug wrote:
Gerald_Snyman wrote:Country : South Africa
Types: Truck 18 Wheeler
I just don't understand why cars hate trucks.

As another truck driver (newly minted) I can say that most car drivers don't hate truckers. On the other hand, they do hate being slowed by trucks...

The slowing down part, I understand, but here in SA cars just downright hate trucks. oh, even if you say you're a trucker, then immediately you loose whatever status you had, and be a dummy... *sigh*

krikketdoug wrote:Which is why I've advocated for a "Alternative truck" category. You have 18 wheelers, and you have smaller box-trucks... I don't expect Waze to recognize all the differences, particularly when it comes to gross vehicle weight.

I fully agree! Let's just start with one truck mode. In SA, vehicles over 3.5 ton GVM are considered heavy vehicles. Usually 5+ ton needs to adhere compulsory safety stops, weigh bridge, speed, etc.

krikketdoug wrote:
I'd love to see mandatory rest stops, but I don't think that's reasonable...

What??? Drive 1600 km (1000 miles) with a car, it doesn't take that long to realize, that at some point you need to take a wee, or the bright sun kills your eyes (uhm, driving with sun glases makes things worse for me), or the stark darkness overwhelms you too, and then you wish for a safe place to pull over.

I suggest a simple landmark type REST STOP, and when you within the borders thereof, your speed has no influence on the traffic data, or a parking lot segment can be made parallel to the main road. The important part is, it needs to be searchable!! A driver gets tired at any given moment. I would like Waze to, on request perhaps, to tell where the nearest rest stop is. I'm not talking about a facility with a tuck shop and huge parking lot. I'm talking about a stop spot government makes in the middle of nowhere, where a few vehicles can fit in (some is large enough for a fleet, some just 3 vehicles).

I don't know if you in USA does have the same. But here in SA, government is lifting up all major roads to a height of at least 1 m. Finding places to stop and rest, or breakdowns, etc, becomes scares. Nobody can just pull over for no reason, otherwise you become a road hazard!!! That's why, in my opinion and experience, searchable mandatory rest stops becomes really important.

Please.

krikketdoug wrote:
Gerald_Snyman wrote:Some WEIGH BRIDGE is 24 hours open and require trucks to always enter the primary weigh bridge, to determine if the truck needs to be pulled over for an official weight. Thus, it would be nice if Waze can tell the driver to keep onto the bridge lane.

Agreed! Now if we can get Weigh station/bridge added as a landmark...

What does it help to add a weigh station as a landmark, if landmarks does nothing, except for cluttering the screen and waste server data storage space? When I add a landmark, it should be searchable after map updates. Something needs to exist in Google Maps, before it can be searchable in Waze...

Here is the procedure: Make a landmark in Waze, name it, classify it. Go to Google, make a landmark, name it, classify it, wait for someone to review your Google edit, hopefully a great reviewer reviews your edit and his vote alone will pass your edit for update. Then voila, Waze can search it. What a waste of time. It's double work. Everything I do in Waze, I need to repeat that in Google. Yeah, I understand Google bought Waze, and have the control. Google Maps can still snatch Waze info, to have their maps improved via Waze editors... Whatever :roll:

krikketdoug wrote:
Gerald_Snyman wrote:Waze can navigate trucks on routes with less hills.

All ready in the works, if I understand correctly.

That's why I signed up for being a beta tester. So I can know what is in the pipeline :lol:

krikketdoug wrote:
Gerald_Snyman wrote:When a truck stops on a long segment, Waze should ask the driver if it's a place to stop and rest. If yes, then mark a 50 meter radius.

If a truck driver doesn't shut off waze when making long distance trips. I'd ask why not. Or are all trips long-distance with no stops at red lights?


I don't understand the red light part, but, as for me, I simply keep Waze on (or actually my previous navigator which works according to my personal drive statistics), to keep track of my ETA. When I see I've gained 10 minutes on my drive, then I know I can rest for that time, without loosing my ETA. When I make an unplanned stop, then I need to work to reach my ETA again. I simply don't turn off my navigator(s), because of the downside of Waze being an online route planner. In the middle of nowhere, when I turn off Waze, I need to wait for data signals again to select my destination again. When I do pull over to sleep, I turn everything off. But for any stop less than 1 hour, I keep everything on... I know I sound like we are very tight on ETA, which is not the case. I've made ETA something to keep me concentrating on, otherwise, driving becomes hopelessly boring and falling asleep while driving becomes all the more a greater risk. All experienced drivers will tell you that you feel wide awake right now, 5 seconds later you are fast asleep, simply skipping the part of feeling drowsy. Please, I ask of you to understand the importance of finding safe places to stop and rest in the country side / outback / the middle of nowhere...

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Oh yeah, what I forgot, in SA trucks have an upper max speed of 80 km/h. Everywhere in the country (freeway included), it's illegal for a truck to exceed 80 km/h (I think it's 50 mph), in most towns the speed limit is 40 km/h. Then also, any dangerous goods vehicle (even a pickup truck / bakkie / light delivery vehicle [LDV]) may not exceed 80 km/h. I know they are in the minority of being almost non-existent, but a simple decision in car mode to set the maximum speed the user wants to drive, will help already a great deal with ETA.

Right now, if Waze can add that simple feature of the user decides what the maximum speed he wants to drive, will help all vehicle types, although car type is the only available right now. My longest route is 1600 km (1k miles), and the difference between 80 & 120 km/h completely mess up my ETA. Even on a 500 km distance, a car do that in 5 hours, an 18 wheeler does that in 8-9 hours... I'm so used to driving slow, that even with my car I drive 80-100 km/h. I wish to have a setting for max speed in Waze...

The solution is fairly simple, Waze only need to check each segment's speed and if greater than user-max-speed then limit the segment speed accordingly. Or take the sum of all the segment distances that exceed user-max-speed, and calculate ETA according to user-max-speed, then add to the sum of ETA of all slow segments.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby RooikatTV_YouTube » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:04 pm

I'm not even going to quote each other again! Way too long a reply :lol:

You are in a habit of turning Waze on/off when you stop. I'm in a habit of snatching everything when I stop and switch to WhatsApp or Tap-a-Talk, or whatever... That is why I like to map every single gas station and shop I go to, a parking lot. So that I can be snapped to the parking lot road, and don't care about the road data for that. Thus, one of the reasons I wish to have parking lots all over the country! :lol:

Yeah, the resting place must be an actual place I can pull over to climb out of the vehicle and stretch my legs, without worry traffic running me over on the main road. Because virtually, that's the case with Waze at the moment...

Hmmm, it's unfair NA servers got the cool stuff, and INTL don't .... soooooo unfair.

Max speed setting, sweet :-)

Ok, unless you want to reply, I'm happy with where we are standing :-)

Next....... BICYCLE!
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby rsouthern2016 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:56 am

Country: US
Road Type: highways with HOV lane

Does Waze identify the difference in the traffic flows between HOV and non-HOV traffic? If not I think the higher speed from the HOV lane is throwing off the road segment average speed and arrival time at destination. Based on my use of Waze I believe it doesn't differentiate. At least in the SF Bay Area, the arrival time is always 5-10 minutes optimistic, and that's with highway travel (so no variable traffic light delays).
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby SeatIbizaRouge » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:25 pm

Hi everybody !

Country : France
Most used vehicles should be added like Bicycles, Motorbikes, Trucks, SUVs
(and even a Pedestrian mode would be nice :lol: )

Of course by adding specific vehicles, you should create specific roads (bicycles paths, ...) and the possibility to add authorized vehicles in the road options (in WME).

(I'm sorry if my english is bad, but happily you can't hear my awful French accent :lol: )
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby SeatIbizaRouge » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:24 pm

petervdveen wrote:
Riamus wrote:Don't say never.

never.

:lol:
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby serega_12 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:08 am

HOV lane addition would be nice.
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