Gerald_Snyman wrote:Country : South Africa
Types: Truck 18 Wheeler
I just don't understand why cars hate trucks.
As another truck driver (newly minted) I can say that most car drivers don't hate truckers. On the other hand, they do hate being slowed by trucks...
The slowing down part, I understand, but here in SA cars just downright hate trucks. oh, even if you say you're a trucker, then immediately you loose whatever status you had, and be a dummy... *sigh*
krikketdoug wrote:Which is why I've advocated for a "Alternative truck" category. You have 18 wheelers, and you have smaller box-trucks... I don't expect Waze to recognize all the differences, particularly when it comes to gross vehicle weight.
I fully agree! Let's just start with one truck mode. In SA, vehicles over 3.5 ton GVM are considered heavy vehicles. Usually 5+ ton needs to adhere compulsory safety stops, weigh bridge, speed, etc.
I'd love to see mandatory rest stops, but I don't think that's reasonable...
What??? Drive 1600 km (1000 miles) with a car, it doesn't take that long to realize, that at some point you need to take a wee, or the bright sun kills your eyes (uhm, driving with sun glases makes things worse for me), or the stark darkness overwhelms you too, and then you wish for a safe place to pull over.
I suggest a simple landmark type REST STOP, and when you within the borders thereof, your speed has no influence on the traffic data, or a parking lot segment can be made parallel to the main road. The important part is, it needs to be searchable!! A driver gets tired at any given moment. I would like Waze to, on request perhaps, to tell where the nearest rest stop is. I'm not talking about a facility with a tuck shop and huge parking lot. I'm talking about a stop spot government makes in the middle of nowhere, where a few vehicles can fit in (some is large enough for a fleet, some just 3 vehicles).
I don't know if you in USA does have the same. But here in SA, government is lifting up all major roads to a height of at least 1 m. Finding places to stop and rest, or breakdowns, etc, becomes scares. Nobody can just pull over for no reason, otherwise you become a road hazard!!! That's why, in my opinion and experience, searchable mandatory rest stops becomes really important.
Gerald_Snyman wrote:Some WEIGH BRIDGE is 24 hours open and require trucks to always enter the primary weigh bridge, to determine if the truck needs to be pulled over for an official weight. Thus, it would be nice if Waze can tell the driver to keep onto the bridge lane.
Agreed! Now if we can get Weigh station/bridge added as a landmark...
What does it help to add a weigh station as a landmark, if landmarks does nothing, except for cluttering the screen and waste server data storage space? When I add a landmark, it should be searchable after map updates. Something needs to exist in Google Maps, before it can be searchable in Waze...
Here is the procedure: Make a landmark in Waze, name it, classify it. Go to Google, make a landmark, name it, classify it, wait for someone to review your Google edit, hopefully a great reviewer reviews your edit and his vote alone will pass your edit for update. Then voila, Waze can search it. What a waste of time. It's double work. Everything I do in Waze, I need to repeat that in Google. Yeah, I understand Google bought Waze, and have the control. Google Maps can still snatch Waze info, to have their maps improved via Waze editors... Whatever
Gerald_Snyman wrote:Waze can navigate trucks on routes with less hills.
All ready in the works, if I understand correctly.
That's why I signed up for being a beta tester. So I can know what is in the pipeline
Gerald_Snyman wrote:When a truck stops on a long segment, Waze should ask the driver if it's a place to stop and rest. If yes, then mark a 50 meter radius.
If a truck driver doesn't shut off waze when making long distance trips. I'd ask why not. Or are all trips long-distance with no stops at red lights?
I don't understand the red light part, but, as for me, I simply keep Waze on (or actually my previous navigator which works according to my personal drive statistics), to keep track of my ETA. When I see I've gained 10 minutes on my drive, then I know I can rest for that time, without loosing my ETA. When I make an unplanned stop, then I need to work to reach my ETA again. I simply don't turn off my navigator(s), because of the downside of Waze being an online route planner. In the middle of nowhere, when I turn off Waze, I need to wait for data signals again to select my destination again. When I do pull over to sleep, I turn everything off. But for any stop less than 1 hour, I keep everything on... I know I sound like we are very tight on ETA, which is not the case. I've made ETA something to keep me concentrating on, otherwise, driving becomes hopelessly boring and falling asleep while driving becomes all the more a greater risk. All experienced drivers will tell you that you feel wide awake right now, 5 seconds later you are fast asleep, simply skipping the part of feeling drowsy. Please, I ask of you to understand the importance of finding safe places to stop and rest in the country side / outback / the middle of nowhere...
Oh yeah, what I forgot, in SA trucks have an upper max speed of 80 km/h. Everywhere in the country (freeway included), it's illegal for a truck to exceed 80 km/h (I think it's 50 mph), in most towns the speed limit is 40 km/h. Then also, any dangerous goods vehicle (even a pickup truck / bakkie / light delivery vehicle [LDV]) may not exceed 80 km/h. I know they are in the minority of being almost non-existent, but a simple decision in car mode to set the maximum speed the user wants to drive, will help already a great deal with ETA.
Right now, if Waze can add that simple feature of the user decides what the maximum speed he wants to drive, will help all vehicle types, although car type is the only available right now. My longest route is 1600 km (1k miles), and the difference between 80 & 120 km/h completely mess up my ETA. Even on a 500 km distance, a car do that in 5 hours, an 18 wheeler does that in 8-9 hours... I'm so used to driving slow, that even with my car I drive 80-100 km/h. I wish to have a setting for max speed in Waze...
The solution is fairly simple, Waze only need to check each segment's speed and if greater than user-max-speed then limit the segment speed accordingly. Or take the sum of all the segment distances that exceed user-max-speed, and calculate ETA according to user-max-speed, then add to the sum of ETA of all slow segments.