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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby davipt » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:17 pm

AJVB wrote:
davipt wrote:"Stopped vehicle on the shoulder" is usually abused by people reporting every single car stopped on the shoulder *outside the lane*, hence in no hazard situation at all, and those are typically closed quickly with the not there because it's *NOT* an hazard.
Either it's a car half on the lane that forces people to slow down and hence a real hazard, or it's a police in disguise and hence a police (hidden probably). A car outside the lane is NOT an hazard!


I disagree. I've been in numerous situations where a freeway has almost come to a complete standstill all because someone in a broken down car on the shoulder. Anything on the shoulder of a freeway that causes people to slow down and look is a hazard.


Nope, you agree with me :lol:. You gave an example of a car on the shoulder, outside the lane, that is still a hazard on your specific context. People doing the reports should know the place and understand if a car stopped like that will be prone to people getting curious and slowing down, or even people thinking it's police and slowing down, both real hazard cases.

My point is a comparison with redlight cameras. Only some (or none in my country) are really redlight cameras, but people tend to report every single red-light.

Those non-hazards are the ones that I see disappearing quite fast due to others clicking on the "not there". I can imagine people will be thrilled with the alert, first because there ain't too many, and then get disappointed when crossing it because they'd expect either an accident with the cars already outside of the road, or a police car, and discover some regular guy with a broken down car, or worse, a car stopped for the driver to make a call, in plain freeway :roll:
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby davipt » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:00 am

AJVB wrote:You flipped flopped. You stated twice (in your previous post) that a car outside of the lane is NOT a hazard, and now you're saying it is. All I am saying is if waze has a type of hazard listed in their reporting function (and they do have 'vehicle stopped on the shoulder' listed) it's fair game and reportable, no matter how minor it is. Because hazards on the road come in all shapes, sizes and situations.


davipt wrote:Stopped vehicle on the shoulder" is usually abused by people reporting every single car stopped on the shoulder *outside the lane*, hence in no hazard situation at all,


The report is called Hazard. If it's not an hazard to the people passing by, it shall not be reported, whatever the item is called.
A car stopped outside a lane in a well designed freeway is by definition not a hazard, but if you know in your country people will cause themselves a hazard in the middle of the freeway just because there is a car stopped, then of course it shall be reported.
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby davipt » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:24 pm

fvwazing wrote:Of course, with 99% of Wazers never reading this forum and its advice, what is a hazard or not comes down to what 99% of users FEEL is a hazard or not. Live with it! ;-)


In these cases nobody needs to come and read the forum and it's advice. They just need to have the common sense of understanding they are reporting a Hazzard or a Camera. Unfortunately as you say 99% of them are instead reporting a car on shoulder or a regular red light.

Coming back on-topic, I can live with those 99% because there is always someone with common sense that will click on the "not there" and clean up the mess, which I think was part of the original question. Of course unfortunately this also works the other way around - the may be a valid hazard report and then those 99% you mention may feel like pressing the "not there". I always pick up the cameras as examples of people reporting regular redlights and every single cop drinking a coffee nearby a street, but then the other half of the people clicking on the not-there for perfectly valid cameras.
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby fvwazing » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:36 pm

Of course, with 99% of Wazers never reading this forum and its advice, what is a hazard or not comes down to what 99% of users FEEL is a hazard or not. Live with it! ;-)
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby fvwazing » Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:49 pm

If anything is to be done about those 99%, it should be done in the tutorial video. Alas there is more attention for its cuteness than for factual content...

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...like reporting cute policecars, and not some lasergun/mobile radar.
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby orbitc » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:00 am

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AJVB wrote:You flipped flopped. You stated twice (in your previous post) that a car outside of the lane is NOT a hazard, and now you're saying it is. All I am saying is if waze has a type of hazard listed in their reporting function (and they do have 'vehicle stopped on the shoulder' listed) it's fair game and reportable, no matter how minor it is. Because hazards on the road come in all shapes, sizes and situations.

I think it's a judgement call. I tend to not report as a hazard unless it's within a few feet of the roadside. But if it is 10-12' off the road, it clearly isn't a hazard and even if people are slowing down, I don't believe it warrants being marked as such. You may feel otherwise and that's the nature of crowdsourcing. :) In one minute, the next Wazer behind you may feel your marked hazard is not a hazard and has the option to mark it Not There. That's the nature of crowdsourcing. :)


I guess the issue is... If waze give us this hazard option (vehicle stopped on shoulder) to choose, people will choose it. I personally, do not like to use "vehicle stopped on shoulder" hazard and from what I see, It doesn't have much affect on the speed. People still drive faster than the posted speed limit. Of course, this is based on my GSP in NJ experience.
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby paulkok_my » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:20 am

AJVB wrote:I've been using Waze for about 3 or 4 days now and during this time I have reported a few hazards and traffic situations as I had came across them. Tonight I reported a hazard on the freeway and a few minutes later I pulled over to check, and it showed as being reported by 'Anonymous'. This is odd as I am logged under my username and I do NOT have the invisible mode activated.

When I got home I check the report list in the app and my report completely disappeared. Other reports from other users were still showing. Being that I am still a new user, is my account under some type of probation period?

Hazard reports can be closed by other wazers by clicking the "Not there" button. If the hazard is still there, they might give you a thumbs up to say thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Anonymous Reporting

Postby sunglowfly » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:23 pm

waiting for your check
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