Sleep button on future iOS versions

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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby LIJeepGuy » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:52 pm

I agree with Faitaru - this is ridiculous and I'm sorry I updated the app now. I do have to restart Waze at times when I'm driving due to a bug where the screen remains dimmed after a notice. Going through the double tap of the home process while driving is NOT an improvement. Is there anyway to add the option in the sleep to ask if you want to sleep or shut down?
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby faitaru » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:23 am

Latest change makes it even worse. It now takes the following to force a restart of the app:
Home button
Double tap home button
Tap and hold waze in hotbar
Tap (-)
Home button
Home button
Waze icon

Utterly ridiculous.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby gettingthere » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:48 am

fezzzer wrote:How will Waze now upload drives? I always thought this happened when the app shut down.


Your GPS points are being uploaded constantly as you are driving. The 'drive' is built afterwards by a process that runs on the Waze infrastructure. If the GPS points were not being updated continuously as all Wazers drive there would be no such thing as 'real time' traffic in Waze.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:17 pm

fezzzer wrote:How will Waze now upload drives? I always thought this happened when the app shut down.

It's the same timing when you sleep the app. The only change is the UI.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby fezzzer » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:04 am

How will Waze now upload drives? I always thought this happened when the app shut down.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby PhantomSoul » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:38 pm

I think one of the new behaviors on iOS being introduced with iOS 7 is the ability for apps to fully keep running in the background, as opposed to just having access to a select few functions when dismissed from the screen, as introduced in an earlier iOS version. This behavior is completely analogous to deactiving a window on a computer; the program continues running as if nothing changed but it's display is no longer on top.

Following this, pressing the home key will no longer shut your current app down. Rather it simply shows your home screen over the app you had on before. An app like Waze will continue to call out to location services, since it's designed to run in the background so it can continue to navigate even if you elect to put something else on the screen, or turn the screen off to save battery life.

In iOS 7, all apps will be shut down by double-tapping the home button, finding the slide that represents the running app you want to shut down, and flicking it upward. I guess that in order to streamline (and promote) this new gesture, Apple will be requiring any in-app shutdown controls to be removed, since there will be a standard iOS way to do it.

I think the sleep mode is a clever replacement for the shut down function, but also, being visually in the shut down function's place, serves as a reminder of the way iOS 7 works differently than what we've become used to. From there, we can either conveniently put it to sleep, or use Apple's new way of shutting the app down. Either way, your phone battery's charge is saved.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby sketch » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:27 am

mwburn wrote:Yep, in fact they got it wrong and backwards.

The "recommendation" is that if your application doesn't "exit" when the home button is pressed, THEN you warn the user that it's still running (and why, etc). Granted, I don't like the idea of waze (or any other app) using a "warning" screen if I want to hit the home button and change applications either.

There's been a lot of debate about how to enlighten/inform users of apps running in the "background", with no real good overall solution. Which is why I believe Apple made it a "recommendation", and if waze incorporates this, I for one will probably turn it on less frequently, unless I'm driving for longer trips (the majority of my trips are only a few minutes).
Nah, you're misreading the Apple document.

A single press of the Home button never does anything besides exiting the currently active application. An app does not have the opportunity to warn a user about anything once the home button is pressed (other than possibly via a push notification, in certain circumstances). The language about alerting a user to a problem is in the context of an error which does not close the app but which limits its functionality somehow.

"A: There is no API provided for gracefully terminating an iOS application.
In iOS, the user presses the Home button to close applications."

Apple wants to be sure that all their apps provide a consistent experience. Most likely Waze didn't just choose to enforce this now—probably someone at Apple caught on and told Waze "take the shutdown feature out or we won't approve the next version of your app".
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:56 pm

annieberyl wrote:I might also "assume" that sleep meant the app was still running....off is off.

That's correct. The only official way to "terminate" and iOS app is the user hitting the Home button. That's it. And even then, its state is saved and it can be "resumed" when brought to the foreground again.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby annieberyl » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:42 pm

I might also "assume" that sleep meant the app was still running....off is off.
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Re: Sleep button on future iOS versions

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:03 pm

robc007 wrote:Also, I see no reason to change the appearance of the "Switch Off" button. Having a "Sleep" button suggests the program is still fully active, as in Windows jargon.

"Sleep" isn't WIndows-specific, it's under the Apple menu in OSX too. And we are talking about iOS only, so not sure Windows is relevant.
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