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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby james8970 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:30 am

Jamaroon wrote:I see, I was thinking private wouldn't be allowed at all.

As for Graham, I didn't mean the intersecting streets, I meant allow Graham to go straight through the intersections. For ex, Graham at Hargrave, allow Graham to continue to the next portion of Graham but not turn onto Hargrave. The turn restrictions are right for Hargrave and Donald etc. That would at least cut down on the turn restriction errors generated by Waze for that area at least.


Again, this comes down to the fact that I want to increase the penalty by every means possible, otherwise Waze could potentially try to route someone down Graham for one block.

I remember reading from one of them recently that there is a HUGE penalty for *exiting* a private road -- so much that Waze won't use it in routing unless it is absolutely necessary in order to make it to the destination...

Are you sure it was private roads? I was under the impression that that was the case for parking lots. Best practice is to list transit routes as private roads, which is why I never switched them to parking lot roads.

I've just been scaling back my OCD lately and quit fixing those automated error reports :lol:
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby doctorkb » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:31 am

Yeah, because it was a discussion around sentried access points and what they should be called.
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby james8970 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:54 am

Contacted Spil for further clarification. If private roads segment penalties are what you suggest, I'd be fine with enabling turn restrictions along Graham, but I'm still hesitant to connect the rapid transit line. The transit buses travel too quickly and avoid numerous junctions and congested traffic, which makes me wonder if the penalty will be enough. I'm not convinced that it's worth connecting the rapid transit line to the road network in Waze as I don't see any real benefit other than eliminating automated errors that are easy enough to ignore - although my OCD finds them difficult to ignore at times :evil:
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby doctorkb » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:55 am

Well, if it helps any, Calgary and Edmonton's LRT lines are largely in there -- if only to reduce those stupid errors from people wazing on the train...
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby Spil » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:28 am

Thanks for alerting me to this thread, James. :)

It is generally NOT proper to connect any "non-drive-able" segment types to the regular traffic grid. However, this appears to be more akin to the characteristics of an HOV lane, so it would best fall under the Waze Wiki's guidelines for HOV lanes: "these lanes should be added to the map as separate roads, with the road type as Parking Lot Roads." They should also be connected to the traffic grid at the appropriate junctions (with turn restrictions set to "allowed"); since the type is PLR, they will be ignored by the routing server. The connections will prevent the creation of automatic map problems, while still making allowance for those who are unaware (or who don't care :roll: ) that they shouldn't run Waze while on public transit.
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby james8970 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:45 am

Ok, I'll make the necessary adjustments. However, if I see a UR stating that Waze is trying to direct them down the BRT lane, I will be disconnecting it from the grid again.
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby Jamaroon » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:38 am

The clover leaf for Northbound Pembina Hwy to Westbound South Perimeter is open again. Just an FYI for anyone high enough to re-open it for routing.
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby james8970 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:43 am

Great, thank you for confirming. I was hesitant to fix that until I took a drive over there. Fix the other exit earlier today.
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby SenpaiNoticeMe » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:40 am

Hello, I'm new to Waze and just tried some easy edits to the Winnipeg area map. Is there anyone still approving edits?
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Re: Winnipeg and Manitoba Wazers unite!

Postby doctorkb » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:47 am

Senpai: welcome!

The only edits that may need approval are ones to places... Any street edits that the editor let you make we're instantly approved!
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