The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby GBSpeedy1305 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:55 am

https://traffic.vicroads.vic.gov.au/ is the main site. You can search by suburb and see every closure / road work by street for the suburb (or displayed area)

There was another more emergancy based site http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/

PS I used WME Color Highlights to - with search for city and had no luck. It will list cities that are on screen allowing you to select a city and then it highlights segments and places with that city set.
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby GBSpeedy1305 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:07 pm

Interesting that Yass and Sydney Airport have NSW added.
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby iainhouse » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:13 pm

"Near" is Waze getting the city name from nearby segments, if the segment with the traffic on doesn't have a city name.

Incidentally, that's why we tend to put city names on major roads that are within urban areas in the UK: because then the reports will more helpfully say "traffic on A1 in Islington", then "traffic on A1 near Islington".
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby LostInMyMaps » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:14 pm

numbermaniac wrote:Around 3 or 4 years ago I came across an in-app report where the city was reported as "mu". This city was created, most likely, when someone was trying to assign a segment to the suburb of Mulgrave, typed "mu", and expected the auto-completion to do its job, but it didn't.

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The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:13 am

Around 3 or 4 years ago I came across an in-app report where the city was reported as "mu". This city was created, most likely, when someone was trying to assign a segment to the suburb of Mulgrave, typed "mu", and expected the auto-completion to do its job, but it didn't.

I believe I or someone else located the segment, fixed the city name, and assumed that was the end of that.

Turns out, the suburb didn't go anywhere!

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I took this screenshot in the Waze app just today. Based on the route I was taking, which only included a short section of Springvale Road between the Monash Freeway and Ferntree Gully Road, this is approximately where the city of "mu" is located.

What can we do about this? Is there a way to delete the city from the Waze map completely?
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:06 am

I assumed it always shows a city name there. As a test, I looked for two nearby reports, one of which was on a road with a city name assigned, and one which was not. Here's what appeared in the screenshot:

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The first report was approximately here, just before the intersection with the Private Road. As a Major Highway, it doesn't have a city name on the segment. The nearest suburb is Lyndhurst, slightly to the east. (By the way, where did "Victoria" come from? Does it automatically expand "Vic" in the suburb name to "Victoria" now?)

The second was about here. This is a Primary Street, so it has a city name on the segment.

The question that comes up here is that the wording is slightly different. In the initial screenshot, it said "in the neighbourhood of", yet in this screenshot it simply says "Near". What's the difference between these two? Is it supposed to be based on the distance between the report location and the nearest segment with a suburb name? If that's the case, is it detecting "mu" is somehow near, but it can't figure out exactly where, so it comes up with "in the neighbourhood of"? I don't know what's happening here.
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:13 pm

ituajr wrote:So it appears Waze is deducing the full state name for itself. I wonder what it does for "NSW"?

Apparently, it does nothing at all.

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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:51 am

iainhouse wrote:"Near" is Waze getting the city name from nearby segments, if the segment with the traffic on doesn't have a city name.

Incidentally, that's why we tend to put city names on major roads that are within urban areas in the UK: because then the reports will more helpfully say "traffic on A1 in Islington", then "traffic on A1 near Islington".


Thanks! By any chance, would you know what the difference is between "Near" and "in the neighbourhood of", as seen in my first screenshot?
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:36 am

Thanks for going to that much detail! :)

Just looked on the livemap, here's a screenshot of the city appearing on Springvale Road right now.

https://i.imgur.com/ENKEHLd.png
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Re: The mysterious city of "mu" - need help deleting it

Postby numbermaniac » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:40 am

Yeah, I couldn't understand why it was worded that way either. Waze's servers must be very confused about this one.
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