Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations etc

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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby petervdveen » Wed May 15, 2013 2:56 pm

berestovskyy wrote:
petervdveen wrote:Maybe wait for waze to start supporting such features before entering nonsense into WME ;-)

You might missed the "we need [...] to discuss and agree the syntax with Waze" in OP.

Okey, but adding things like this to the waze DB is a very bad idea.

Ofcourse it would be nice if there was a possibility to add some data but not like this.

About the features not working in Poland.
The U-turns function should work.
The Housenumbers should work.
The gas stations function can be enabled when there is enough data inserted.

The state function is being worked on, but for a lot of european countries that's not necessary.

EDIT:
And if you want to contact Waze about this, contact your champs or comunity manager.
They can forward it.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby petervdveen » Wed May 15, 2013 11:35 am

Maybe wait for waze to start supporting such features before entering nonsense into WME ;-)

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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby omba_de » Tue May 28, 2013 8:31 am

The search-function isn't only bad in Poland...
It's bad in Germany too.
Austria is much better.
The problem in Germany seems to be, that waze uses bing for results. (I don't know why, but I think Austria uses waze-search only...
I've tried several searches in Germany and Austria. And the search results in Austria were much much more better than the same ones in Germany.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby no1ne » Tue May 28, 2013 10:42 am

To enhance it's search engine, Waze dev team ask each country administrator to defin how people are looking for addresses and how those are set.
Now they are compiling all that so different way of doing so...
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby no1ne » Sat May 25, 2013 6:25 pm

you can set what ever you want in the alt name boxes

as long as waze app is not set to read and use it
it's as usefull as blowing against the wind ...

you'd better promote user voice and make wazer vote to request (in number) what they want the app to be




PS i wonder to know how that kind of discussionis related to Localization...
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby edsonajj » Wed May 29, 2013 3:49 am

davidmrohde wrote:NYC would be a great place to test time-restricted turns. I've seen a few errors reported from users directed to make illegal turns. That's a "last tiem user-experience" waiting to happen.

That's why the rule is to have them as not allowed, it's preferable to give a sub-optimal route than to direct the user to do illegal turns.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby edsonajj » Thu May 16, 2013 3:43 am

I can tell you that most countries in Latin America can benefit from the states feature, as we have administrative regions that are equivalent to those in the US. For the examples on Portugal, Germany and Poland I don't see why the respective administrative regions could not be put in the state field (even if they are not the exactly states); there might be further sub-divisions but I still think that having information on the broad administrative regions for each country is better than not having it.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby edsonajj » Wed May 15, 2013 2:42 pm

I will comment on several of your examples

berestovskyy wrote:To improve TTS pronunciation:
Street: full street name Waze uses by default
Alt City: #tts Alt Street: if present, a spoken form of the street name for TTS

Example:
Street: CeBIT Street <- a name for search and to display
Alt City: #tts Alt Street: C. bit Street <- Waze uses this to correctly pronounce the street name

In general I like it; it would be better if the nuance voices worked correctly or Waze's adaptations considered cases where this is needed. As a stopgap, it's good.

berestovskyy wrote:To abbreviate long street names:
Street: full street name Waze uses by default
Alt City: #short Alt Street: if present, a short street name to display and to pronounce (if #tts is not there)

For instance:
Street: Estakada imienia generała brygady piłotów Mateusza Iżyckiego <- full name for search
Alt City: #short Alt Street: Estakada Iżyckiego <- short street name to display/pronounce

At least in México our rule for street naming is to use primarily whatever is on signs and I've never seen one as long as your example... I don't know if it is common in Poland. Still, assuming you have a similar situation I think the current system could handle it correctly with the Short/Common street name on the main field and the full one in the alternate.

berestovskyy wrote:To complement/disambiguate an address:
Street: full street name Waze uses by default
Alt City: #zip Alt Street: if present, a zip code Waze uses for search
Alt City: #province Alt Street: if present, a province name/code Waze uses for search
Alt City: #district Alt Street: if present, a district name Waze uses for search
etc

I think that all of these should be handled through separate fields.

Examples 5-10: This would be stretching the role of the alt name quite far... There is nothing to suggest that waze would start using this info, and in general when a new feature has been implemented previous data has not been migrated over (such as house numbers). And at least for road closures it can be handled by disconnecting the segments while they should not be used for navigation.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby dmrzoom » Wed May 29, 2013 3:44 am

NYC would be a great place to test time-restricted turns. I've seen a few errors reported from users directed to make illegal turns. That's a "last tiem user-experience" waiting to happen.
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Re: Alternate street names for TTS, zip codes, abbreviations

Postby dmcconachie » Thu May 16, 2013 10:08 am

TonyG-UK wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:It works very well in the UK!


Until they stop using external sources for address searching.

I believe the post codes were imported so should be unaffected. Though even if they were still external, they'll just become a secondary database rather than an unusable one.
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