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Dealing with Road Closure Requests (MP)

Post by Timbones
Road Closure Requests are a new type of Map Problem that are automatically imported into the editor from Elgin. Here's what you should do with them...
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First, attempt to verify if they are valid, and maybe get some more accurate details about the location, direction and duration. The reports from Elgin (also Roadworks.org.uk) are mostly spot on, although often claim the closure is for an entire day rather than just working hours.

If the closure request is bogus, for example on a cul-de-sac, non-drivable road or lane closure, then mark it as Irrelevant data. This feedback will be passed back to the feed provider so they can improve their information.

If you have necessary permissions to set closures on the relevant segments, then go ahead and set the closure. If you don't have permissions, then you can pass the request up to a higher editor to implement for you, as per this thread. Remember to include all the information needed to set the closure.

Further tips:
  • The UR/MP Tracker extension can show you all the closure requests in your area.
  • If the segment needs splitting, and the closure starts more than a week in the future, you can probably get away with it as long as you remember to come back after the map has updated.
    Otherwise, you'll have to figure out which segments are best to close.
  • Daytime or overnight closures that repeat over several days are easier to apply via the Closures sheet.
Addendum: Requests from TrafficMaster will no longer appear in WME.
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Post by PealRinger
Are some Elgin road closure now being added automatically?

I was just looking at this request in Eastgate Street, Southampton and then realised that the closure is already there, apparently without an real editor approving?
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iainhouse wrote: Hertfordshire CC have a really bad habit. They publish a load of closures along the lines of "Closed for 2 days within this 20 day period from micro-surfacing". What can you do? Mark them as irrelevant and move on. :(
Like this...
Micro surfacing of carriageway 07.30 - 18.00 under road closure for 2 days between 39th and 13th November.
...however hard I try WME just won't let me enter the 39th of November :lol:
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Post by theMadcabbie
Whilst we are thinking about dear old road closures, can an easier way be found to add these?

For example :-

If we have a closure that is going to be ongoing for 2 weeks, Monday to Friday 8am till 6pm, this entails an editor doing 14 separate edits.

Can this no be more like restrictions where we select the times and days?

This would make life easier and reduce the chance of errors.

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Post by Timbones
seriousarsonist wrote:If the segment needs splitting?
Like if the bridge is closed, but the segment is much longer and between two junctions. Sometimes it's necessary to chop the segment into 3: one for the bridge (higher elevation while you're there) plus one either side. Segments get new IDs when you split them, so you won't be able to apply a closure until the Livemap is updated again.

If there isn't time for the map to be updated before the closure is needed, then you'll just have close the whole segment.
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Post by Timbones
Bump: There are around 500 Map Problems in the Editor right now - if anyone can pitch in and help, I'm sure Iain would appreciated it. :lol:

Some quick tips to help you get through them:
  • If you have your own custom areas, you can enable the "Hide all but <x>" filter to do those first.
  • Enable the 'Hide visited' filter, and wizz through the list looking at the start dates.
    Concentrate on the ones starting soon, leaving the rest for another time.
  • Any closure on an unnamed street with no GPS tracks can usually be ignored,
    as any closure is unlikely to affect any users.
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Post by Timbones
How to close a level crossing without splitting the segment
1. shrink the existing segment down to just a few metres
2. connect segment to railway to form a junction
3. draw new segments either side and add original name, turns, etc
4. close 1st segment, which will work before and after map update

If the closure starts before the map updates, then the whole road will be closed as before. After the map update, just the small section will be closed. Also works for bridges and other roads that need it, as long as you don't change the segment ID.


The alternative approach for a level crossing that does already have a junction node is to put in one-way closures either side, in the direction away from the junction. That way, drivers will be navigated to addresses near to the crossing but not across it. (Hat tip Dave2084)
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Post by Timbones
Twister-UK wrote:I'm not quite following this, doesn't step 2 immediately blow away the original segment ID we're trying to preserve here?
No, it doesn't. Only splitting or merging segments will change the segment ID. Other edit operations do not affect it.
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Post by Timbones
The UR-MP Tracking script has been updated. It should be more robust during scans, and now supports road closure requests. Sort by date is very handy (but careful about clashing with other editors following same order).

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