Thanks Timbones, I appreciate it is late. I should be online tomorrow afternoon so if you have any questions about the actual junction then ask away here. Most people won't drive to addresses on the roundabout EXCEPT for there is a large and busy BP fuel station in the middle of it which has 2 entrances and 1 exit (naturally all from/onto the roundabout).

I think from memory my tom tom sat nav treats it as a dual carriage way rather than a roundabout but it doesn't tell you to carry straight on onto church road then turn right on A4 bath road then straight on all within a few yards when it really wants you to turn right as you get on the roundabout then exit left. Perhaps the junctions can be manipulated to simplify the junction as roads rather than a roundabout. ie:
1. Not have the one way on and off slips which are seperated by skinny traffic islands in real life.
2. Just have two way roads/dual carriage ways off the roundabout.
3. Have no segments on the roundabout named? (won't get the road names prolonging confusing TTS directions and perhaps no road name will cause the waze routing server to cut down on what it thinks needs a direction)

Thanks for the opinions guys,

I won't make it a roundabout, just tidy it up as road segments and see if the directions are more acceptable. Bozwell, it might be useful if you could help check voice navigation on the client when it's changed, thanks.

The livemap tile update process currently running on the servers is processing changes before Friday 7th (should've been finished yesterday but hasn't yet it seems) so it seems it could be a long time before any updates hit the livemap.

The voice of experience =) I've not been around long enough to know how the tile updates run, the process has been stopped the whole time I've been a Wazer (not very long admittedly but I'm trying to do my bit to help).

Changes have been made, just got to wait for them to hit the livemap so they can be checked.

Thanks Timbones,

I've read through those already and watched a fair few videos too. Trying to learn by doing and googling for info when I'm not sure (or asking here hence this thread) but obviously if anyone spots something that I've done wrong I don't mind them telling me rather than just correcting it so I don't keep making the same mistakes.

I drive this road at least once a week and have often thought about changing it to a roundabout, but as Timbones wrote it's just too complicated, and I've just added another road where Novatech is that wasn't there (although I'm having second thoughts about it now).

I don't often have the voice switched on so not noticed how it directs here.

There's no point two people making changes to it so I'll leave it to you, but let me know if you want me to to check anything on it next time I drive through.

Andidy wrote:The voice of experience =) I've not been around long enough to know how the tile updates run, the process has been stopped the whole time I've been a Wazer (not very long admittedly but I'm trying to do my bit to help).

Changes have been made, just got to wait for them to hit the livemap so they can be checked.

As I have local knowledge of the same area as you feel free to message me if you're unsure about anything. I'm no Waze pro but I have 55,000 updates under my belt now.

My first thought was it should be roundabout as the road sign says but having see deeply, I agree it is too complicated. I checked on google map and it gives different exit number to the road sign. Keep it as segments will be better

I'll have a proper look tomorrow, but generally Waze does not handle internal exits well. They will get counted as exits, which will confuse many. There are sometimes tricks you can do to make it work, but doesn't always turn out perfect. (I'll explain later)

Ignoring the parking roads could be tricky, as some drivers will be counting them as exits (maybe).

The simplest option would be to exclude the silly little roads altogether. I imagine that most drivers will be driving _around_ the junction rather than to an address on it. Less is more.

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Having had a proper look at the junction, I'd suggest that this should not be a roundabout, as it's too large and complicated to get it right.

Simplifying the adjoining roads (Church Rd and Reading Rd) to be 2-way segments without the Vs would ensure you get proper "turn left" instructions. Also, make sure the roundabout has a different name to the attached dual-carriageway, as it's the name change that triggers the 'keep left' instruction. The two end segments (in between A4 exit and entrance) should have no name.

Once your changes have gone live, you'll be able to test various routes in the LiveMap (example). Get the addon from my sig to see navigation instructions.