The (County) Suffix

Image

Moderators: Unholy, Timbones

Do you agree?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:02 pm

Yes
12
71%
No
2
12%
Undecided
3
18%
 
Total votes : 17

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby CTCNetwork » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:43 pm

Hi,

Sounds reasonable. Whenever working through a village I always check to see if there is duplicate to it and don't add the county whenever possible. Would be handy to know what 14 towns you have.

There are a couple of villages/suburbs that clash. Finchley and Beaumont are two I have come across.

Suburbs though really hack me off!!!

Des. . . ;)
CTCNetwork
 
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am
Location: Here!
Has thanked: 27 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby CTCNetwork » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:05 pm

Hi,
xteejx wrote:As long as roads in that vicinity have City set, the Major/Minor road would show that anyway.

Most roads passing through any village/town will have defining signage to say that you are now entering x town/village. Ergo you add the city field at this point. Obviously some towns/villages are tight fisted buggers and forget some of the signs on more minor roads entering the town/village! In which case best guess or common sense needs to be employed.

Most, if not all, roads also have a road/street name. This should always be included wherever possible.

Des. . . ;)
CTCNetwork
 
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am
Location: Here!
Has thanked: 27 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby CTCNetwork » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:53 pm

Hi,
Dave2084 wrote:
xteejx wrote:Agreed, *except* where a boundary cannot be defined easily, or setting a whole segment will cause a creep, so basically high streets etc only imo.


If naming a segment will cause creep, I always split the segment.

Yep, adding a junction where the sign is or where it is obvious that the town/village has ended (that good old "best guess" or common sense approach). Breaks the segment and allows the correct naming to be completed. :)

Des. . . ;)
CTCNetwork
 
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am
Location: Here!
Has thanked: 27 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby CTCNetwork » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:03 am

Hi,

This forum needs a thank you button! :)

Thank You!

Des. . . ;)
CTCNetwork
 
Posts: 1516
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:19 am
Location: Here!
Has thanked: 27 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby Dave2084 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:22 pm

richardjeeves wrote:I don't mind either way. At the moment I use the (County) suffix for my editing. I don't mind changing all mine over but, we need it enshrined in the wiki, so others follow (and soon). I am willing to go with the flow, but personally i'm not changing any thing until we have all agreed :) (or we get to use the state/ county box). Whichever is first!


+1
iPhone 4S 32GB (Jailed) • iOS 8.2 • Waze 4 Beta
Level 6 Editor • Lincolnshire Area Manager • UK Country Administrator • iOS Beta Tester
UK WikiUK ForumWaze UK on FacebookBecome a UK Area ManagerWaze Status
Dave2084
Global Champs Localizers
Global Champs Localizers
 
Posts: 2338
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am
Location: Lincoln, UK
Has thanked: 345 times
Been thanked: 339 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby Dave2084 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:19 pm

xteejx wrote:Agreed, *except* where a boundary cannot be defined easily, or setting a whole segment will cause a creep, so basically high streets etc only imo.


If naming a segment will cause creep, I always split the segment.
iPhone 4S 32GB (Jailed) • iOS 8.2 • Waze 4 Beta
Level 6 Editor • Lincolnshire Area Manager • UK Country Administrator • iOS Beta Tester
UK WikiUK ForumWaze UK on FacebookBecome a UK Area ManagerWaze Status
Dave2084
Global Champs Localizers
Global Champs Localizers
 
Posts: 2338
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am
Location: Lincoln, UK
Has thanked: 345 times
Been thanked: 339 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby ditchi56 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:00 pm

Timbones wrote:There are 929 towns in England
robin1979 wrote:If you deliver a file with all towns to Waze, Waze can import them, and lock the addition of new cities.

Not arguing against the proposal for removing the (county).

However, many of the entries in the "city" field in England are neither cities nor towns but villages. So restricting possible values of "city" using a predefined list of cities and towns would be a much bigger change. Using a predefined list of cities, towns and villages would be fine if someone could find such a list - or we could continue to allow editors freedom as now.

Incidentally, the use of "city" for village names is entirely consistent with usage in the homeland of Waze. In the US, "cities" frequently have less than 100 inhabitants.
ditchi56
Country Manager
Country Manager
 
Posts: 2779
Joined: Tue May 29, 2012 12:35 pm
Has thanked: 428 times
Been thanked: 1028 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby ditchi56 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:06 pm

Timbones wrote:Given the general support for this, I propose the following new wording for the Wiki (at the bottom):
> http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/How_ ... es_-_DRAFT


I would suggest that the largest place in the UK with any given name should have no suffix, then others would need a suffix to distinguish. Thus the Lancashire town should be simply "Preston" and the Dorset village "Preston (Dorset)".

Which I think is what you intend anyway, but it is as well to spell these things out to avoid ambiguity.

Now which Sutton is the biggest???
ditchi56
Country Manager
Country Manager
 
Posts: 2779
Joined: Tue May 29, 2012 12:35 pm
Has thanked: 428 times
Been thanked: 1028 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby dknight212 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:37 pm

I am content with the proposed change. I would prefer to go with a predefined list though that will open a new can of worms about which list to use.
dknight212
Waze Global Champs
Waze Global Champs
 
Posts: 4964
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:21 am
Location: London, UK
Has thanked: 473 times
Been thanked: 635 times

Re: The (County) Suffix

Postby dknight212 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:03 am

I think we must keep villages in the mix.

David using Tapatalk
dknight212
Waze Global Champs
Waze Global Champs
 
Posts: 4964
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:21 am
Location: London, UK
Has thanked: 473 times
Been thanked: 635 times

Next

Return to United Kingdom

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users