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New WME and Places (UK)

Postby woodvale » Tue May 27, 2014 3:55 pm

I see we now have a new version of WME which appears to include Places in lieu of Landmarks.

For those in the UK who rarely look at other parts of the forum, have a look at this post and then have a read of the wiki linked to from there for a full explanation.



[Edited once I'd read the top level announcement myself :oops: ]
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby DavidChanTW » Tue May 27, 2014 5:02 pm

I just found the shortcut for Places is still using the old one: shift+L(Landmarks), which should be changed.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby woodvale » Tue May 27, 2014 6:26 pm

Krixera wrote:I just found the shortcut for Places is still using the old one: shift+L(Landmarks), which should be changed.

@ Krixera - can I suggest you delete this and re-post to the main post, linked above? This is the UK forum you've posted to. Thanks.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby Dave2084 » Tue May 27, 2014 7:14 pm

Please bear in mind that specific guidance for places in the UK has not yet been finalised so the UK wiki still needs to be updated.

If there is anything that is at odds between the old UK landmarks wiki guidance and the generic (and mostly North America based) places wiki it would be a good idea to discuss here first.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby NorfolkMustard » Tue May 27, 2014 7:23 pm

Should I start a separate thread in here for Places guidance discussion, or in this thread. I'd like to kick off with parking
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby Superfraggle » Tue May 27, 2014 7:51 pm

Yeah I have a few questions. requests :D

Just to be different.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby dmcconachie » Tue May 27, 2014 7:58 pm

Well lets make this the official thread for now and yes, parking is going to be the biggie! We really had hoped to have a little more time to digest the changes before they were released but it seems we'll have to run with this for now.

The general guidance for Places, linked to above, should be used as a guideline for now, bearing in mind anything that might contradict the UK-specific landmark rules we already have.
Drastic changes should be avoided for the time being at least until they have been discussed here.
And please avoid calling anyone out if something seems off. Imports from the old landmarks could be wrong (I have a running track near me marked a a beach) and new systems/guidelines always take time to bed in and filter down.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby NorfolkMustard » Tue May 27, 2014 8:18 pm

For the time being, there's plenty to do now we can set the navigation points of migrated place:areas :up

So, parking.

AIUI, UK guidance has, upto now, used the logic that if you're using waze you're assumed to be in a car and therefore the destination waze should take you to (and therefore sometimes the only needed landmark for a place) is the carpark. Entirely logical to me.

The generic (but US biased) wiki page for Places:ParkingLot uses very strong language against this for some very common UK scenarios - most notably supermarkets/shopping centres/stadiums

If you ignore the Places spin on it:
It just boils down to a difference in how we/they treat parking. So, do we use this opportunity to change how we treat parking, or else it's an easy decision to just delete that bit and replace with the current UK guidance.

not ignoring the Places spin, but keeping UK parking guidance
With Places you can add many sub-categories to a Place:area, including "Parking Lot"

suggestion: enlarge existing shopping/stadia building landmarks to encompass the adjacent parking, add a "Parking Lot" sub-class, move the Place:area destination marker to the entrance/parking lot road nearest the entrance. Delete the migrated/existing parking lot landmark. Or, vice-versa. Leave the existing ParkingLot Area, but add a sub-class for shopping center (sic) etc and expand it to cover the buildings.
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Re: New WME and Places

Postby Dave2084 » Tue May 27, 2014 9:57 pm

I have made this topic a sticky as it will no doubt be looked at a lot over the coming weeks.
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Re: New WME and Places (UK)

Postby cew118 » Tue May 27, 2014 10:02 pm

Is this a different dimension? was that light in the sky when we was driving last night a wormhole? aliens? dare i even say it.... Germans!? my WME :'(
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