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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby MisterMooCow » Wed May 15, 2013 3:18 am

mapcat wrote:Posted a slight revision to Ohio mapping conventions. Is it any closer to being something we can run with?


Looks good to me. I tweaked it a bit -- check my edits to make sure I didn't go too far?
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby mapcat » Tue May 14, 2013 12:49 pm

Posted a slight revision to Ohio mapping conventions. Is it any closer to being something we can run with?
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby MisterMooCow » Tue May 14, 2013 4:26 am

Parking lots: my understanding is that the app gets parking lot information from four-square. Has that changed?

On all the municipal/first-responder/whatever buildings: in a big/dense urban area (like a state capital), the density of these things is entirely too high -- you end up with wall-to-wall landmarks. We also have tiny little police stations that are basically kiosks in strip malls.

Since new editors don't get the distinction, it's a zero-tolerance thing with me -- if it's not a landmark (i.e., something that will help orient you in an area that is both unfamiliar and confusing -- not just entertain you while you sit at a traffic light), it's gone.
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby the1who » Sun May 12, 2013 3:45 am

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the1who wrote:Agreed, sitting here, zoomed in, I can see it. I assume that when you come to the toll booth on the freeway, and have to slow down, it'd show I assume.

That UR, was it for toll booths at the exits? Just curious.


Nope, in a straightaway where they have the cash and fly by EzPass lanes. Pretty sure this was the one on the I-90 Skyway:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-87.56 ... TTTFTTTFTT


No, I agree to that, but my calling is to the non-native user, the user who is visiting even, or passing by. They'd have to stop. I know when I used the ez-pass (wrong name maybe) for the SF Gate Bridge at the meetup, I drove thru too, without stopping, but I slowed down considerably, to like 20 mph or so, even as a visitor using the pass. I knew it was coming anyways, but the everyday local user would already know the toll booth locations, I am thinking of those that are trekking along.

And then for your parking lot reply, I agree, permit only should not be mapped for sure. The ones with permits will know where to park.
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby Bigbear3764 » Sat May 11, 2013 10:18 pm

Another thing about Train Station landmark, we have commuter lots with daily pay spots and permit only parking. If it is known to have permit only parking, don't include that in your landmark. In one town I know, permit parking is on one side of the tracks and daily fee parking on the other side. I would think someone with a permit will know where to park and if someone was looking for daily fee parking and saw a landmark on the wrong side of the tracks, that might make them leave a UR that would make the Jolly Drivers thread.
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby Bigbear3764 » Sat May 11, 2013 10:00 pm

the1who wrote:Agreed, sitting here, zoomed in, I can see it. I assume that when you come to the toll booth on the freeway, and have to slow down, it'd show I assume.

That UR, was it for toll booths at the exits? Just curious.


Nope, in a straightaway where they have the cash and fly by EzPass lanes. Pretty sure this was the one on the I-90 Skyway:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-87.56 ... TTTFTTTFTT
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby thefatveganchef » Sat May 11, 2013 8:38 pm

I think toll booth landmarks are good for another reason, if you are editing a highway it is a good reference to know that highway is a tolled highway so you can be sure the toll flag is there on that segment. I added the toll booths that I could see after I had an editor come behind me and remove the toll flag from a segment of road I knew was toll.
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby the1who » Sat May 11, 2013 7:10 pm

Agreed, sitting here, zoomed in, I can see it. I assume that when you come to the toll booth on the freeway, and have to slow down, it'd show I assume.

That UR, was it for toll booths at the exits? Just curious.
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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby Bigbear3764 » Sat May 11, 2013 6:58 pm

As for the toll booth, there are a few marked in Illinois. Question is what size does that landmark have to be to be seen while doing 65+? I saw a UR the other day marking a toll booth. Turned on landmark layer and saw it there so I'm assuming at higher speeds, they couldn't see it. I'll have to dig and find that one to post.


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Re: Landmarks for Region 3

Postby the1who » Sat May 11, 2013 1:19 pm

All great replies, I appreciate it.

I agree for the parking lots at large sports complexes where they have lot numbers potentially? I agree for the parking lots at large airports for long term or short term.

I especially agree for the public service locations, granted in emergencies I don't think someone is going to open app on phone to find nearest location, but on someone's leisure of just opening up the app to play with it and scroll around, they could find the location of the post office or police stations, in case they had to use their services. I know here locally, people usually have to go to the fire station to get their child's car seats installation checked (if they so desired).

At the meetup, I don't remember getting in-depth on landmarks as much to say we weren't doing parking lots, as much as we got deep into street types, at least what was mentioned as a whole. Now if it was on the side, that could be true. But we didn't really discuss as a whole if this type should be on the list or if this should be removed. I do remember the toll booth landmark being briefly discussed (to which I favored using).

Same as above for public stations, you can scroll on the map to see where the toll booth is...but I haven't plotted them all, I just know on I-70 in KS I just have one there where it turns into the KS Turnpike West out of KC. I am looking at it now on the client, it is distinct and it provides visual information for travelers for sure. Aside from signage along the way, if there is a traffic jam, one could see is it because of this area or beyond right? Ok just my thoughts there running free, but that was one that was discussed for sure at the meetup. Let me know what you think about the toll booth here if you could, interested in feedback on that subject.

Other than that, I think we are on the same track. If there is anything that I need to update, let me know and I'll get to it. Thanks!
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